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Hi everyone, this is Deb, your host from the True Crime Podcast, Dying to be Found.
Welcome back to our little spin-off called Dying to be Found the Dash.
I'm glad you found us because it's all in the name.
I started the Dash to give listeners a collection of short true crime stories.
And if you're a binge listener like me, you can get through a couple of episodes in one day.
You can see that some of these episodes I do go solo, but today's your lucky day because that's not going to happen.
I have Jenny and Dee Dee from the True Crime Podcast, Murder on My Street to help me out.
Hi guys.
Hi.
Welcome.
I'm excited you're here.
Thank you for having us.
Absolutely.
We're very excited.
Yeah, me too.
It's so great to meet you.
I love putting the face to the voice.
I try to get some podcasters on here so that my listeners know what I like to listen to.
I'm going to sound like a little game show host here and I'm going to give you some instructions.
Ask questions if you want.
We're going to go into a little mini interview session.
I'll ask you some questions about Murder on My Street and you can tell us anything that you want.
Something maybe that I didn't put in there.
I didn't ask you about anything that I didn't mention.
And then when we're done, you guys can listen to one of my little mini episodes and we'll just have a conversation about it.
Great.
How about that?
Sounds great.
Perfect.
I always find it fascinating how people start podcasts and I know personally it's a really big commitment.
How did you guys decide to start a podcast together knowing that you had to put some time in together because there is a lot behind the scenes.
I approached Dee Dee with the idea.
Yeah, I had gotten fired and I was very sad.
Oh my well not fire once he fired it was during the middle of the pandemic and Jen's like, hey, let's do a podcast starting in January.
I'm like, well, I don't know work and might as well do something.
So she's like, you don't have to do anything.
I'll do all the work.
I'm like even better.
What it's nice just to show up.
I just get to have a chat with my friend each week.
Okay.
I love that.
Yeah, I got fired once too and I still don't know why but it was a long time ago.
Yeah, it was it was it was out of the blue to say to for sure but I think that's how it happens.
They don't like to give you notice that's about to happen.
They want you to work a half a day.
Yeah, and then they're going to pull you in.
You're going to see human resources sitting there and you're going to know what's about to happen.
Well, see, I didn't even get that.
I didn't even get that.
I showed up to a meeting on Monday and they said we have to let you know your position has been terminated.
What did not see it coming?
What no not at all.
Not at all.
Did you get a severance package?
Yes, I did.
That's good.
But it was it was a shock.
It was a shock and I had been there just shy of 26 years.
So it was a shock.
It was a shock.
Oh my gosh.
My first this same company the same company did the same thing to Dee Dee's mother after she was there for her career.
Yeah.
Wow, that's awful.
That's how it goes.
Well, I'm glad the light at the end of that tunnel is that we have murder on my street to listen to now.
All right.
Oh gosh, Jenny, how about you?
How do you handle that commitment of long-term getting episodes out every week?
It is a grind.
If I'm not in school, then I manage it quite well.
I think the thing is Dee Dee and I have been doing it long enough now that I don't have to edit as much.
True.
Yeah, the time does go down.
And that's a huge help.
Oh, yeah.
And when it comes to research, I naturally gravitate.
I've always been fascinated by the fact that someone can just disappear off the face of the earth.
And 10 years later, 20 years later, 30 years later, we still don't have answers as to what happened.
And unsolved murders really bother me.
So I'm naturally during the week surfing the internet anyways and seeking out stories like that.
So to do research, I basically fall down rabbit holes, even if I didn't have a podcast.
Right.
So do you find other story?
When you're looking at a storyline, do you go ahead and just write down the next storyline based on some,
you know how those rabbit holes can really just, I mean, really spread out.
So I think I've done that a time or two where I've looked into other cases because of the one case I was looking at.
Yeah, sometimes that will happen.
And then I'll have to write someone's name down and go back for that as well.
Gotcha.
What do your friends and family think about you guys doing a true crime podcast?
Oh my God.
Well, Dee Dee's sister is like our biggest fan.
She loves it.
My dad said he was going to listen, but he's not listening.
They can't find it.
Mom can't find it either.
And my mother, absolutely not.
She would never.
Why do you want to talk about that?
Okay, it's fine, Mom.
You don't have to listen.
Does she know we quote her?
I tell her and she just laughs.
Oh man.
What have you guys learned from each other while working on Murder on My Street?
Jenny, you and Dee Dee grew up together, right?
Right.
Yes.
We met when I was three and Dee Dee was two.
You guys remember that moment?
No.
No, I remember being at the preschool, but I don't remember.
My mom would always say I would come home from preschool and I was just nonstop.
Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, Jenny.
So.
That is so sweet.
So what, so you guys have known each other for a long time and what have you learned
each other since doing the podcast?
I didn't know Dee Dee could sing.
Huh?
You can.
In our Springfield 3 episode, your voice is amazing.
Oh, hooray.
Look at me.
I didn't know.
That's what I learned.
I didn't know I was a star.
Thank you.
What have I learned about Jennifer?
I didn't know she was into the rainbow colored hair.
I just love it.
I love this part of her personality.
I just love it so much.
I was a late bloomer with it.
I love it.
It's a phase.
Don't worry about it.
It's fine.
If you guys could trade true crime for any other podcast genre, what would that be?
Okay.
It's funny that you asked that question because I actually do have another podcast.
Really?
That is on hiatus right now called Blame It on the Badge and it's a vagina podcast.
Wow.
Tell me more.
I'm intrigued.
So one of my besties is a librarian and our friends got really tired of us talking about
our vaginas all the time and jokingly threw out, you guys should just have a podcast.
So we decided we were going to do a podcast because no one ever talks about vaginas.
Like we're raised not to talk about our vaginas.
So we will have things go wrong with them that we don't even know are normal.
We don't always know how to treat.
We're brushed off a lot of times and so it started because Abby was having horrible issues
that took years to get to the bottom of and then it just kind of spiraled from there.
Wow.
We just started talking.
I want to be a guest.
Yes, you totally have to come on and be a guest.
I would love to.
Absolutely.
But we've had different topics.
We had one of my friend's mothers came on to discuss sex over the age of 70 in a relationship
after being widowed.
So we discuss important topics and then every so often we'll do a funny topic like most
popular sex positions or we've done like a history.
Oh my goodness gracious because as librarians, of course you want to research but when you
go back to all the products that we used to use like at one point women were poisoning
themselves because they were like using Lysol.
Oh wow.
To rinse themselves out and it was being advertised as that.
Wow.
To be used for that.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Just crazy.
So we've done a history of things and we've also done the funny ads for feminine products.
Okay, I'm definitely going to go look this up.
You can find this at blameitonthebadge.com and then the podcast is on Stitcher, Anchor,
Apple.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Get in the way where you listen to your podcast.
Dee Dee, what genre would you have if it wasn't true crime?
I love a documentary.
So I would love to do a podcast around just documentaries that I love.
Like I love, I love love and after we're done, I'm going to go watch one.
A sports documentary.
Oh, it doesn't matter the sport.
Okay.
I'm going to go watch one on Dale Earnhardt in the crash.
Oh, yes.
If it's a 30 for 30, stop it.
ESPN has got any sport, wrestling, hockey, racing.
I don't care.
I love it.
That's awesome.
See, that's something I didn't know about Dee Dee.
Love a documentary.
We've been best friends since we were like babies.
Love a documentary.
I'm glad I could help you out with that Jenny.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I like my documentaries too.
That's that's for sure.
I actually watched a couple.
I've taken a couple days to just kind of veg and just watch things that I don't normally watch.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Do you guys have podcast stickers?
We do like merchandise.
I have them.
Jen has them.
I don't.
I don't have one.
Do you guys go stick them up in places where they'll be seen or do you just pass them out like business cards?
I thought about doing that.
Just sticking them on like signs.
Like, you know, when you're at a stop.
I should send you some.
Yeah, you should send me some too.
And we see that's the thing.
I'm a stickler for that Dee Dee and I want to do the same thing, but I don't I think that's illegal.
I'm sure it is defacing public property.
Yeah, but if you're not caught you can't say it was us doing it.
Yeah.
Well, I mean we can say somebody else did it.
I could pull I could pull a Dave Chappelle and say I didn't know I couldn't do that.
There you go.
Okay, cool.
So Jenny make sure Dee Dee get some of those business card stickers.
I'll send you a big old stack.
All right.
I like to throw in a couple just off the wall questions here.
It doesn't have anything to do with the podcast specifically.
I like to learn personalities.
Which one of you would be most likely to be arrested for a crime?
Me.
What would you be doing?
Me.
Sticking stickers up when you're not supposed to?
Probably or dealing with these these these teenagers and their parents.
Oh, yeah.
Just or any just any random like I don't I shouldn't say this.
I really don't like people.
So it would probably be something just so like somebody standing too close to me.
And then I start screaming and yelling because hey didn't we just come out of a pandemic?
Why are you so so close to me?
Don't you have a mask?
You've been coughing the whole time.
Now, I think I got what you got.
No, now we're screaming and yelling in the target and now it's just a cuffs.
They call the police.
I'm black.
You know, I'm going to jail.
They take me no matter what I'm going.
What happened?
Then I got a call.
I had to call my sister who is an attorney who be like D.
Why a whole it'll be a whole thing.
So it would be me.
At least you will have swift representation.
Maybe she's still my she's still my sister after all.
I didn't know that you didn't I didn't think it was an emergency.
Answer the phone.
I call you.
No, you got to call twig.
She's a public defender.
Yeah, I need twigs.
We went to high school with someone.
I need twigs number then.
Yeah, I'll have to send it to you.
No, I think that I would be the one that's going to be talking sense into people so that
we don't get arrested.
That's probably me.
Jenny, how about you?
Yeah, I try not to do anything.
I'm a librarian.
I mean I would DD have brought up a great point one time.
She's like listen, I don't want to go to jail.
I don't want to go to jail, but I will under the right circumstances.
Absolutely about me about me and my I don't I don't want to it looks like a terrible place
sounds like a terrible place.
I don't want to go there.
But if it's about my kid, I got to I got to cut you.
I got to cut you.
It's bad.
Oh man, you mess with my nieces or nephews.
It's over sped sped.
So I just try to stay home.
Yeah, it's best to separate from humankind from time to time.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was laughing when you said yelling at someone in the Target.
When's the last time you even left the house?
I don't I don't I don't I door dash and instacart.
I got to call you out on that.
I really don't I said I was going to go out today didn't go.
I have days just like that.
And I mean, I don't know sometimes you just need to do nothing, you know, yeah.
All right. So what's the best advice that you guys have for someone who wants to start a podcast?
Jenny, you're juggling to Dee Dee.
You are be the listener.
Oh, okay.
I love it.
Just be the one that gets to sit back and go really?
Wow.
You don't say, okay, Todd, next week.
That's what I would suggest.
I would suggest finding a partner who loves research and just need somebody to be the good friend sidekick.
And you really you have to think about who you're doing a podcast with because you have to have a rapport.
Yes, absolutely.
And usually it turns out to be either family members or close friends like you guys.
You guys have known each other for so long.
Do you guys ever have a disagreement about the storyline or no, that's good.
Yeah, I don't either.
So yeah, when you have that good rapport, Jenny, it's really important.
And that's I think part of why some of these podcasts that I listen to stick around for so long because they do have that good rapport.
Yeah.
And I really appreciate her insight on cases too, because I'll present a case that I've been researching and then she'll think of an angle.
I hadn't even thought of.
Yeah, my sister does that a lot too.
Yeah.
So I know you guys are on hiatus right now and what can we look forward to when you do bring out the next season of Murder on My Street?
I felt really bad because we actually got an email from someone who said that they love our show,
but it's super frustrating because there's never like a conclusion.
Oh, we have our unsolved cases.
So there's never going to be one.
True.
And we prefer to go farther back as well and highlight cases that haven't gotten a lot of press.
So that's you can look forward to more of that.
Okay.
The older cases.
Yeah.
And I'm hoping we can get our Patreon up and going too when we come back to have some extra content as well.
Yes.
Yeah, I think it's important to do those cases that aren't always in the news.
I mean, personally on Dying to be Found, the standard season with my family members,
we do talk a lot about not the high high profile cases where, you know, everybody's talking about,
oh gosh, Ted Bundy and all those people.
But I started my podcast just from major storylines that were in the news that I recollected from news sources at the time and it's spiraled from there.
I know that I like the direction of trying to give people names, give people identities.
And yeah, those older cases, especially in today, you guys will hear one that the case has been solved.
And I love when we can solve a case.
Absolutely.
That's great.
I think we've only highlighted one case that's been solved.
Wow.
Yeah, everything.
And they're all my obsession cases.
So they date back to just stuff that I have run across where I'm like, how is that even possible?
Like three people just gone.
What?
With nothing.
That just trips me out.
So where can we find you online?
You can find us wherever you listen to your podcast.
We are on Apple.
We are on Stitcher.
Outcast.
That's my podcatcher that I like to listen to my podcast on.
Okay.
Yeah.
Murder on my street.
Go find us.
All right.
Well, thanks for letting us learn a little bit more about you, Jenny and Didi and Murder on my Street listeners.
Be sure to download Jenny and Didi's podcast wherever you stream.
I think once it gets out there into the airwaves, it's pretty much everywhere.
Yeah.
Okay.
With that being said, are you guys ready to switch gears and go into my little storyline?
Sure.
Funny story here.
I have been so busy this week that I did not get my story written out until yesterday.
This morning, I didn't like it so much.
So I switched gears again.
So you guys are going to get a better story than what I originally I was like, should I give you guys a choice?
Nah, I don't think so.
And I'll tell you why in just a minute.
But I do have a question for you.
Have you guys ever used a metal detector or seen anybody using one?
Sure.
I've seen people use them.
Did they ever find anything while you're watching them?
Oh my God, my uncle used to take it to La Jolla Shores, Didi, when we were hanging out down there and he would find jewelry all the time.
I think that's what they're looking for because, you know, if we're at the beach and then we take the jewelry off to get into the ocean.
Well, I don't get into the ocean, but you know what I mean.
So I don't get it either.
Yeah.
So I'm thinking they're probably looking for jewelry, anything valuable like that.
And I mean, my dad, he had one.
I think he got it at a garage sale.
But he would take it out.
We used to go.
I grew up in Canada and we used to go to Lake Huron, which was my beach.
And he would be taking his little metal detector and looking for things.
But mainly we went out looking for arrowheads, which doesn't take a metal detector.
But yeah, he would use that a lot.
I don't think he really found anything of true value, but it's really kind of a neat concept.
So I want you guys to hold on to that thought because this is going to come into play in just a bit.
Okay.
And we're going to be talking today about a woman named Dawn Elaine Sanchez on August 30th, 1991.
Dawn Sanchez was living at the Four Seasons Motor Lodge on the 4300 block of El Camino Real in Los Altos, California.
Do you guys know where that is?
I mean, I don't know where you're located, but Los Altos, California.
Where is that?
That sounds really close to it's not in LA, Jen.
Does that sound LA-ish?
Let's see.
Los Altos.
Now I got to look.
Yeah, it's about an hour and a half from where I am.
Okay.
Yeah.
What?
Los Altos.
It's above San Jose.
Wait, the city of Los Altos?
Yeah.
Yep.
The city in Santa Clara County.
Why does it say, oh, I didn't see the plane.
It's an hour and a half flight from here.
Sorry.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That sure was an airplane.
Yep.
That makes sense.
I know.
Sometimes when I'm using my GPS, I'm like, oh my God, why is it taking so long?
And then I see I'm on the walk icon.
No, I am not walking to North Carolina where my daughter lives.
Yeah.
My goodness.
And I've only had water to drink.
I've only had water to drink.
I swear.
Well, on August 30th on that particular day, Don had driven off in a tan and brown
1979 Pontiac Grand Prix along with her boyfriend, Bernardo Bass, and another
acquaintance.
She was never seen or heard from again.
Don was reported missing.
It took two months for anybody to report her missing.
How tragic.
I know.
I mean, I'm like, wait, why?
I mean, I couldn't really find a ton of information on her background.
In the world of crime, I would say that police were at that point because it was
two months before she was even reported missing.
They were probably looking for a needle in the haystack as far as leads and
evidence.
Well, police did do their best when they were doing their investigation.
They dredged nearby waterways, followed up on leads, and were able to track down
that acquaintance who was in the car with Don and Bernardo on the day that Don
disappeared.
Wow.
So Bernardo wasn't a person of interest, does it say?
Yes.
From the beginning?
I didn't really see anything to do with that.
And I have a feeling because it took so long for Don to be reported missing that
they probably didn't have a lot to go on.
They probably didn't even know if she had a boyfriend who he was.
And if nobody was coming forward, I would say that, you know, he was just a
ghost at that point.
Right.
According to that eyewitness, the couple had gotten into an argument on the day
that Don disappeared.
The argument turned ugly and Don ended up getting shot while in a vacant lot
near the Twin Creeks softball park in Sunnyvale, California.
Oh my God.
Based on the recorded interview from that acquaintance, a search warrant at
that time was issued and cadaver dogs discovered Don's scent inside one of
Bernardo's closets in his home.
That didn't go very far, but I'm thinking possibly the reason it wouldn't.
Well, I mean, they were cadaver dogs, but if she was at his home, I mean,
wouldn't her scent be there?
I suppose the scent would be different.
I mean cadaver dogs.
I mean, I wouldn't, maybe he moved her body after a while or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
He probably stored her there just until he could figure out what to do with her.
What to do.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, that wasn't enough because although police conducted a thorough
investigation, there was never enough evidence to tie Bernardo to Don's
disappearance and there were a number of reasons.
They didn't have Don's body.
The murder weapon was never recovered.
That recorded interview with the person who was in the car with Don and
Bernardo, police lost the tape.
Of course.
And the witness later refused to testify against Bernardo Bass by invoking
his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination.
How disappointing.
I read somewhere that they did have a transcript.
I mean, you guys, how do you lose a tape that should be in the evidence file?
I don't get that.
It seems like it happens a lot in cases.
The evidence.
Well, I mean, yeah, entire boxes of cases, evidence is missing.
Oh, yeah.
We've covered a few like that.
How many, how many rape kits are nowhere to be found?
Right.
Wow.
Or how about this?
Oops.
I forgot to click the record button.
Yeah.
Well, Bernardo's sister was later interviewed during that investigation
and she told authorities that Bernardo had ordered her to sell off that
Pontiac Grand Prix and of course later she recanted that story.
Apparently, old Bernardo likes to intimidate people.
So he scared his sister into telling lies.
I don't know much about his character other than just these little articles
that I didn't really find a ton of articles on this thing, but that type of
person is going to do everything they can to intimidate people for sure.
I guess the other question I had to you guys is if Bernardo's sister went off
and sold the car, is there no way that you could easily link the VIN number?
Because that's traceable through the Department of Motor Vehicles.
Right.
If you sold it properly.
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, but wouldn't...
That's true.
She might not have.
I mean, who knows who she, who she got.
It could have gone to, you know, someplace in Mexico.
It could have gone to a chop shop, some parts.
It could be in any number of pieces.
Or she could have just sold it to Joe Schmoe on the street, like as quick
as she could to get rid of it.
Yeah.
Ultimately, this case did go cold and charges were dropped against
Bernardo Bass due to lack of evidence.
And really that's about as far as that could go.
However, 18 years later in 2009, a witness came forward to report that
Bernardo may DD, just like you said, they may have disassembled that
Pontiac Grand Prix and buried it in a very large abandoned lot in El Viso, California.
I wouldn't say that it was a junkyard, but there was a lot of
metallic debris there.
It was all scattered around.
I have no idea why.
I didn't see any pictures as far as the abandoned lot, but apparently
people went and dumped stuff there and a lot of car parts and things like that.
So that's kind of where the metal detector comes in.
Police did follow up on this witness's account and returned to that
abandoned lot where Don possibly could have been killed.
They didn't have all the resources that they needed to excavate a
massive empty lot, especially because that area had a lot of cars
that may have been disassembled.
Sure.
And then also they didn't really have an exact location.
So it was just a big field, a big open space.
I mean, that would be a lot of manpower and equipment to dig that up.
Yeah.
And then there was a lot of metallic debris in the area because it had
become that dumping ground and they needed something better than just
a plain old metal detector that would probably pick up on everything.
You know what I mean?
Right.
All right.
So this is the cool part.
This is where the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, also
known as NASA, they came in and they helped with the investigation.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, I can't wait to take a look.
Well, NASA engineers just happened to have a roving ground vehicle
available that was equipped to conduct magnetic surveys.
The name of this vehicle was Sonnetta MAX 5.0A or 5.0A.
And it's designed to do what we know as a ground survey.
And basically it conducts geological surveys and uses data to mark
ground magnetic fields.
Obviously, this is much more sophisticated equipment than a
simple metal detector that would go off when any metal was detected in the area.
So I kind of want you guys to think as far as computers, the one show
that comes to mind is CSI Miami.
You know how they have that big screen in front of you and you can just
see all the digital stuff going on?
Yeah.
According to Carnegie Mellon University, the Sonnetta MAX was set up
with an onboard computer system that was capable of generating magnetic
maps, which gave investigators and scientists real-time visual
surveillance to zone in on any questionable areas and perform high-resolution surveys.
So I'm envisioning like on CSI when you see that big computer system and
you can just kind of see almost like an x-ray, you know?
Right.
Yes.
NASA worked with authorities to sweep the abandoned lot where Don Sanchez
was supposedly killed and guess what?
They were able to recover old car parts during that excavation.
Wow.
They found car parts that were indeed connected to the 1979 Tan and
Brown Pontiac Grand Prix, the same vehicle that Don Sanchez was in.
Boy Deeds, you called that.
You did.
Wow.
See, that's why she would be most likely to be arrested.
She thinks like a criminal.
I'm like, cut the car up, cut the parts up, scatter them around the beach, go.
Police believe what happened is that Bernardo shot Don, removed her from the
vehicle and stored her in that closet at home until he could get rid of her body.
I am a criminal.
Didn't I say that?
Yeah.
Had you heard this story before?
Never, never.
Well, not this particular story, but how many stories have we heard like this?
Where this is the exact thing that the boyfriend or husband or person they
were having an affair with did to them.
Oh no.
That's a great picture of her though.
Oh no.
I know.
Am I still frozen?
She always took a nice picture.
Okay, before she gets back, tell me a quick story about her.
Because that's what I do here on the dash.
Let's see.
Still frozen?
She eats her cookie.
I don't know if she still eats her cookies.
Really weird where she doesn't eat the middle part.
She eats all the way around where his fingers touch and she throws that part away.
Like Oreos?
Yeah, or just any cookie, anything, a sandwich, anything.
You eat around and then you throw that part away.
I don't know if she still does that.
She did that when we were in high school.
She did that.
Oh well.
Oh goodness.
I don't know what happened to Jennifer.
I should probably text her.
Yes, here on the dash Dee Dee.
Whenever we have technical difficulties and somebody drops, we tend to tell stories or I do anyway.
Jenny, you're back.
Can you hear us?
Yes.
Can you hear me?
I can.
Yep.
Yes.
I'm not sure what you were trying to say before you dropped.
Okay, so what I was saying before I dropped is we have not heard this case before, but
we have heard so many cases like this before where the boyfriend, the husband, the person
that someone was having an, that a woman was having an affair with had done this exact
thing.
Yes, so really it's always that person closest and we know that, the police usually, but
again, at the time they probably didn't even know who he was and how he was associated
with her and nobody was coming forward.
We criticize the police a lot in the cases we cover, but it's much different when they're
having to start two months after someone was last seen and we don't even know who reported
her missing, right?
No, we do not.
Does she have family?
Obviously they didn't miss her.
I don't know.
I don't know who figured it out.
The only thing that we can fault them for is losing that tape.
Losing evidence, yeah.
But they have the transcript though.
Right, and it's not, that guy wasn't going to testify anyways because he would have ended
up in a chair.
No, because he was intimidated.
I get that.
On August 29th, 2009, Bernardo Bass was rearrested for the murder of Don Sanchez.
He pleaded not guilty.
However, if he went to trial by jury, he would be facing 25 years to life in prison and he
didn't want to change that.
I found this kind of interesting.
He eventually changed his plea to no contest.
How do you plea no contest to a crime like that?
I didn't even know that was allowed.
Yeah, no contest.
I mean, to say, well, I mean, that's like saying, I'm not saying I did it or didn't do it.
Right, exactly.
I mean, to me, you would have to have cut and dry either you did or you didn't, but
I don't know how the law works and this was back in 2009.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Well, he went on to serve six years with time served for voluntary manslaughter.
He would have been only required to serve another two years and four months after he
was convicted.
So he had time served and he only spent another two, close to two and a half years in jail
or prison.
They never found Don Sanchez's body to this day.
So my question is, you guys don't have legal background.
I'm going to assume that, right?
Because I don't either.
So as a layman here, are prosecutors able to go back and charge him with something else?
He did.
Well, he pled no contest.
He was convicted of voluntary manslaughter, but if they find her body one day, which sometimes
that happens, could they go back and charge him with anything else or is that double jeopardy?
I would think that's double jeopardy.
Yeah, I think he's already served his time for that crime.
He pled no contest to that.
So I think if they find her, they just find her.
They just give her some peace.
Yeah.
And how tragic, how tragic.
I suppose I'm glad that she got a little bit of justice, if you want to call it that.
Because more than I would say all of the cases we've covered have gotten.
At least there was some, yeah, at least there was some sort of punishment for how people
feel about whether you feel it was enough, reserved his time or whatever.
No, at least there was something.
Absolutely.
I think as a family member, you just want some sort of justice.
I don't think that any amount of time probably ever feels like enough.
No.
You know, you won't ever get her back.
Right.
So that's the only thing.
Right.
There's nothing that can bring her back.
So I don't know if we're going to really ever get true justice.
That is true.
Well, you guys, that's the story of Dawn Sanchez and how NASA helped to solve her case.
I thought that was so cool that they agreed to bring in that equipment.
I mean, that's amazing.
That's really cool.
If anybody has any information on Dawn's remains or where she might be located, please contact
the Los Altos Police Department at 650-947-2770.
And there you go.
Any last thoughts?
Los Altos is a lot further away than I thought it was.
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Thank you.
Absolutely.
I'm so thrilled that you guys agreed to this.
That was fun.
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