1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Okay. 2 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Alright. 3 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Welcome, welcome, welcome everybody. 4 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:53,600 This is Carl Casey's at White Bat RDO's Recoil from their Cyberpunk Industrial Dark Synth 5 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,600 playlist. 6 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,900 Royalty free. 7 00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:59,660 So be sure to check his stuff out, okay? 8 00:00:59,660 --> 00:01:03,200 So let's get started with today's episode. 9 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,480 Welcome, welcome, welcome. 10 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,360 This is Trinity and this is Talking Out Sessions with Trinity and this is season 4 episode 11 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,960 1. 12 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:23,360 And today we're going to talk about the intersection of astrology and CBT or cognitive behavioral 13 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,360 therapy. 14 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Alright? 15 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,280 So, so, so, so, we're going to embark on a fascinating journey to explore how these two 16 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,760 powerful things, these disciplines that we think are seemingly separate intersect and 17 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,560 empower us to transform our lives. 18 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Alright? 19 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Alright, let me get this music cut down some. 20 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Alright, alright. 21 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,040 How's everybody doing? 22 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Alright? 23 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,240 So, let's talk about it. 24 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:55,680 So y'all know astrology and CBT therapy or cognitive behavioral therapy, however you know 25 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:01,400 it, they're completely seemingly unrelated, right? 26 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Right. 27 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,680 But if you think about it, we really discover the connections between understanding like 28 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:14,300 the stars and the minds and if you can't understand the birth chart, you can begin to start unpacking 29 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:16,760 what goes on in like your mind, right? 30 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:23,080 So have you ever thought how your celestial alignments in your birth chart influence your 31 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,880 thoughts and emotions and behaviors or how the principles of cognitive behavioral therapy 32 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,960 can actually help you with those unhelpful patterns and beliefs? 33 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,960 So again, let's dive into how these two disciplines can help you uncover valuable insights that 34 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,960 can enhance your personal growth and self-awareness. 35 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:53,000 So let's talk about astrology and its actual role that it's used in to help people in their 36 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,840 self-discovery journey. 37 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,800 So your birth chart is a cosmic map, right? 38 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,240 And it's based off the time, date, and location of your birth. 39 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,120 And it holds a wealth of information, right? 40 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,200 It has a wealth of information like your personality, your strengths, your weaknesses, your challenges. 41 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,360 It's like a snapshot that... 42 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,720 It's like a snapshot of the sky. 43 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,400 And it's the moment you enter this world. 44 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:31,360 It is the moment that the unique blueprint of you was created. 45 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,440 So now let's talk about cognitive behavioral therapy. 46 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,760 So cognitive behavioral therapy emphasizes the connection between our thoughts, emotions, 47 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,800 and behaviors, similar to astrology. 48 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Now the difference between the two is that it actually offers a more practical, empirical 49 00:03:48,880 --> 00:04:04,920 approach to help identify and help move past negative or just toxic thought patterns that 50 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,960 might be holding you back. 51 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640 So how do you use them both? 52 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,120 How do you use them both? 53 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:18,200 So you use astrology and cognitive behavioral therapy to complement each other by actually 54 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,060 exploring your birth chart. 55 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:25,020 So when you explore your birth chart, and I talk about this in my book, The Alchemy 56 00:04:25,020 --> 00:04:31,720 of Astrology and Psychology, which is available on Amazon, using your birth chart, you're 57 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:39,880 actually able to really take and get a grasp on your thoughts, your behaviors, your influence, 58 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,040 possible patterns that could be going on in your life that you may not take into account. 59 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:54,320 This is available at the least invasive, at the least invasive measure. 60 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,320 When you have like a birth chart session, when you want to take those steps towards 61 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:06,680 healing, and you don't have to really delve deep into your trauma to do this. 62 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Now people think of astrology as like some cold reading, like metaphysical woo woo, but 63 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 all astrology is, is a pseudoscience. 64 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,360 Pseudo just because it means fake doesn't mean it's not real. 65 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Something that is a pseudoscience simply means that we do not have the actual empirical 66 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,520 evidence to show the correlation between the two. 67 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,840 Astrology hasn't been disproven as of yet, yet it's been used for thousands of years, 68 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:47,720 even before the creation of constant behavioral therapy, even before the Freud's and all this 69 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,320 other stuff, right? 70 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:58,440 And even around that time, astrology was still used as a primary means of either prediction 71 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,920 or kind of identifying somebody's personality to a degree. 72 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Astrology gave, psychology just helped give like a name. 73 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:15,680 It gave reasoning, it gave deeper meaning to what astrology started essentially, right? 74 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,840 So how, how can you, how can you use both of these things in tandem? 75 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:22,440 How, like how? 76 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,320 So again, by using your birth chart, you get an understanding of your core beliefs and 77 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,840 behavioral patterns. 78 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:35,840 So this awareness of those behavioral patterns and those core beliefs, it allows cognitive 79 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:40,000 behavioral techniques to be applied effectively. 80 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,360 So if you have a cancer in the 12th house, the 12th house is hidden, like hidden glassy, 81 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,200 you know, it's hidden things, it's glassy, it's psychological stuff. 82 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,680 If you have a cancer in the 12th house, there is a more, more than likely probability that 83 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:02,000 you have a mother wound that you have not dealt with yet. 84 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,560 So if you go and take that into cognitive behavioral therapy and you were like, hey, 85 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:14,840 you know, I went to this astrologer and you know, they said I had like a mother, a mother 86 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,840 wound. 87 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Is there any sort of thing where I can like verify that with you or something along those 88 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,200 lines where you talk about whether it's psychologists or a therapist. 89 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,920 And they will give you the tools to kind of dig, like help you dig into that and be like, 90 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,120 hey, so do you think you have a mother wound? 91 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,040 How is the connection with your mother? 92 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,480 How is your relationship with your mother? 93 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,880 How did you grow up? 94 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 How do you take care of yourself now? 95 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:50,320 And it opens the door for those things to really help you tie it all in together. 96 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,280 And like I said, people think astrology is just as big like cold reading, psychological 97 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,120 woo woo woo when it can be so much more when used effectively. 98 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Now here's another example. 99 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Let's just say if your birth chart has a strong emphasis on self doubt or if you're a failure, 100 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:16,560 cognitive behavioral techniques such as like cognitive restructuring, where you can actually 101 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:24,240 challenge and reframe those limiting beliefs, meaning what do you have this fear of? 102 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,280 Why? 103 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,360 How can you change this? 104 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,680 How can you restructure this? 105 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:37,400 And by aligning some of those insights with astrology and by aligning astrology and the 106 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:44,600 practical aspects of cognitive behavioral therapy, you can really reshape thoughts and behaviors 107 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,760 and you actually can have positive change and personal growth. 108 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Astrology can give you the overview on what's wrong. 109 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:05,920 It can give you the map cognitive behavioral therapy can actually put grounding to what 110 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,600 you discovered in your own chart, if that makes sense. 111 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Think of astrology as the sky like the sky map to your circumstances, generational trauma, 112 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,320 your strengths, your weaknesses. 113 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,960 But what does it mean? 114 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Concentrate behavioral therapy psychology gives the grounding, it gives meaning to what 115 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,480 you discovered in your own chart. 116 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:39,720 There are aspects of yourself in a birth chart where you can actually, you know, really just 117 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,600 find if you're supposed to be wealthy, if you're supposed to be this, you're pretty, 118 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,840 you can find your potential in a birth chart. 119 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,600 However, if you have these negative aspects and transits that you need to work through, 120 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,240 cognitive behavioral therapy can really, really ground yourself and really shed a light in 121 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:04,280 detail, really help you unpack like, okay, I have mother issues, I have daddy issues. 122 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,240 So how? 123 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,200 You can see mother like mother or father issues in a birth chart. 124 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:16,880 However, if you do not have an astrologer that is versed in psychology to some degree, 125 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,920 they will not be able to tell you how to unpack that stuff, how to start. 126 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,280 And that is what you can start, that is what you can take to a therapist, that is what 127 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,800 you can take to a psychologist. 128 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,840 And yes, they might look at you weird at first, but at the same time, you have somewhere to 129 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,840 start. 130 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,840 You want to go to therapy, you don't know what to talk about, you don't know what to 131 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,180 do. 132 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:41,280 You can start with a birth chart reading. 133 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,800 Get an astrologer that is versed. 134 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,320 You can interview your reader, you can interview your astrologer, the person that's reading 135 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,280 your stuff, interview them just like you would interview your doctor, just like you would 136 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,400 interview your therapist, your psychologist. 137 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,840 What is your knowledge about this? 138 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Do you have any knowledge of astrology that can help me? 139 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Do you have something that can help me? 140 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,040 What is your knowledge about this? 141 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Do you have any testimonials? 142 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Do you have, what is your education like? 143 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,360 And I'm not talking about, oh I have a certificate in astrology, I have this, I have a certificate 144 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,920 in tarot reading. 145 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:25,280 No, I have an associate's degree in psychology, and I've had one for the past, oh my god, 146 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,280 how long has it been now? 147 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,520 I've had one for the past 10 years. 148 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,440 That should tell you something. 149 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:38,400 That should tell you that to me, it's so important for when people get astrological readings 150 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:45,520 from me that I use them to help people really ground themselves and really dig into why. 151 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Like why, why is it like this? 152 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Why haven't you dealt with this mother own? 153 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,560 Why is this blocking you from success? 154 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:57,440 Why is this making you fear success? 155 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:04,720 And the difficult thing about trying to combine these two things is that this requires such 156 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:13,200 an open mind and a willingness to embrace both cosmic, like astrology and psychological 157 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,120 aspects of this journey. 158 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:22,360 You have to find balance and harmony between the two things in order to effectively help 159 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,200 a client, effectively help yourself. 160 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:32,640 So this is a short episode today, but as we finish, I just want to encourage you all that 161 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:40,840 are listening to really dive deeper into this fascinating and captivating realm. 162 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,840 Engage in self reflection, explore your birth chart, consider how your astrological influences 163 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,320 align with your thoughts and behaviors. 164 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,760 And if you're interested in further exploration, get resources, get books. 165 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,240 I even wrote a book. 166 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Again, it's the alchemy of astrology and psychology. 167 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 It's the only book like it is, and it's a super short read. 168 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:10,440 I made it insanely short and to the point, you know, and there's even therapists who 169 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,200 integrate astrology and content behavioral therapy. 170 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,000 You just have to look. 171 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,880 And if you're in like a dry zone, if you're in a dry area where, you know, therapists 172 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:29,520 are not like that, you can always come and see me for a spiritual counseling session. 173 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,640 You can see me for an astrology reading and we can talk about it. 174 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,760 All right. 175 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,920 So thanks for joining me on this conversation. 176 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,320 Please, please, please. 177 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:48,200 As you navigate your birth chart, please embrace the power of your thoughts, behaviors, and 178 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,600 create a life of fulfillment, authenticity, and self discovery. 179 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Bye guys. 180 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:22,000 See you in the next episode.