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I'm Helen and I'm Liz and we're sisters, scientists and lifelong ex files fans.

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And this is We Want to Believe.

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Okay, welcome back.

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We are talking about.com,.com,.com.

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I'm just repeating you.

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Norwegian words.

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We're talking about Norwegian words today.

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Yeah.

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The whole episode just about at Mology.

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Yeah.

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I have a language neither of us speak.

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So yeah.

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Yeah.

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I've been consistently speaking to Gatsby in French lately.

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Really?

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Oh, he's a poodle.

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It seems appropriate.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Do you feel he responds better in French?

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Like, does it connect with him?

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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I don't speak to Leo in French as much.

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Maybe it's because there isn't a French word for labradoodle or doodle, but there is a

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French word for poodle.

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Wait, there's a French word for poodle?

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What is it?

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Kanish.

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Really?

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Oui, mon petit kanish.

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I had no idea.

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How did you spell that?

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C-A-N-I-C-H-E, I think.

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Oh, okay.

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Nice.

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So I tell him he's a kanishmal, he's a bad poodle.

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Oh, he's a bad poodle.

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The name of his pop punk album that he will be releasing, Bad Poodle.

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I know there is a French word for greyhound.

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I can't think of what it is, but I looked it up once, but unfortunately it is also slang

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for a sex position.

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So yeah, I was like, oh no, what is happening?

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So I should double check that just in case.

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I think that you would have already realized it, like if you googled it at all.

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I can't imagine that in French, every dog breed is a different sex position or something.

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I don't know.

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No, I checked it.

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You're fine.

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Oh, okay.

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Kanish is fine.

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Good.

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Good.

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I spent a long time looking into the history of poodles one night recently when I couldn't

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sleep and discovered it then.

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I know poodle comes from a German word for like water.

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Oh, does it?

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Like poodle.

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Oh, right, like puddle.

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Yes.

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And I learned this because of a game of trivial pursuit where that was a question.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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Yeah.

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What a good question.

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Yeah, it is.

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So yeah, Norwegian.

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We do not speak Norwegian.

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We don't speak Norwegian.

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Nope.

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We are not even tangentially related.

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You've been to Norway.

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I have.

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It was fine.

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It was nice.

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Have you been to the sea in Norway, specifically the 65th parallel?

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I don't know.

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Was it near Oslo?

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Because I was near water.

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I don't know.

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We went to Oslo and we did do like a little bit of going outside the city, but it was

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just to this like cultural outdoor museum with all these old buildings that had been

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like relocated to be like a museum.

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It was very cool.

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I think you've told me about that.

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I think I have.

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They had like buildings with grass on the roofs like Al Johnson's restaurant.

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In Door County, Wisconsin.

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Where they have grass on the roofs and goats as well.

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I don't know what parallel we were at.

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And I don't know.

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We were definitely by water though.

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There was water everywhere.

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Oh, interesting.

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I was merely at the 60th parallel.

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Ah, darn it.

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So close.

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Well, this episode takes place.

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We start in the Norwegian Sea near the 65th parallel.

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And people are arguing and kind of fighting and some people are leaving the boat that

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they're on.

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And the captain is standing there and saying, you know, this is mutiny.

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And they're speaking Norwegian and it's translated?

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No, they're speaking English.

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And they have American accents.

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And the captain pulls a gun on one of the guys, but the guy says he doesn't want to end

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up like the others and gets in like a lifeboat.

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They're like all just leaving.

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Wow.

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And so then, yeah, 18 hours later, it shows another ship.

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These are Canadians we find out.

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So it's a Canadian accent.

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Very strong Canadian accents.

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I thought maybe they were Norwegian.

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It was a very strong accent.

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And the guys see in their radar a ship just kind of like floating.

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So they throw them a line and tell them to like hold on and they'll pull them in.

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And it turns out it was the lifeboat full of the Americans, but they're all really old

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So I'll tell you, so this episode didn't grab me.

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Like it seemed it had a very, very similar vibe to fire and ice and the one with the fluorescence

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in the woods like Mulder and Scully are stuck somewhere.

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Something weird is going on.

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If there's like some one other person there who might be suspicious, like, I don't know.

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It just had a very formal.

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Yeah, like tensions are high.

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Like, yeah.

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It didn't grab me.

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I did do, I do have a few interesting stories grown in here.

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Awesome.

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Awesome.

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Because I was super interested.

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I am up for interesting stories and I'll hopefully remember it.

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Something happened in my life recently that I was like, oh, I would love to spin this

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into an X file.

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It would be perfect, but I don't remember what.

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Oh, wait, were we going to talk about time traveling?

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Oh, a time time time traveling bison.

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Yeah.

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So let's let's make sure to talk about time traveling bison today.

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At the end, shall we?

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Or yeah.

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Sounds good.

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Great.

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So the intro plays and then we see Mulder and Scully in hospital in Bethesda and Mulder

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is seeing how a Navy ship recently went missing with no sign.

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It just kind of disappeared.

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And then suddenly the night previously they picked up a lot of the crew members and one

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of them is still alive.

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So that's the lifeboat that was found.

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And Mulder called Scully in because they won't let him in, but she's a doctor and so she's

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hoping that she can get some more information.

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And she's confused because she walks in and is asking like, oh, is this the patient and

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he's supposed to be 28, but he looks about 90.

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Oh, okay.

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So you know, that's weird.

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And so his doctor comes in and basically kicks Scully out and is like, you know, please

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hand me my patient's medical file and leave.

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And again, one of those situations where like, I think we're supposed to be annoyed, but

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I was like, yeah.

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Like, who are you?

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Fair.

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And so she was like, no, please leave.

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So she goes back to talk to Mulder.

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They're in their office and he starts, he shows her a map where he's got all these like pins,

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you know, in it at different points and lines drawn on the map and says that other ships

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have apparently gone past that part of Norway near the 65th parallel and have disappeared.

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Mulder then brings up the Philadelphia experiment.

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Are you familiar with that?

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Is it the name of a movie?

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The Philadelphia something project?

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What is the Philadelphia project?

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Is that something?

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Is that related?

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The Philadelphia story is a 1940 movie that I was thinking of, which is with Kerry Grant

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and Catherine Hepburn and completely unrelated.

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But then the Philadelphia experiment was apparently, it looks like also a movie in 1984.

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And then there was a sequel in 1993 and a remake in 2012.

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Oh, no kidding.

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But that was definitely not what I was thinking of.

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Oh, okay.

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Is it some sort of invisibility experiment?

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So this is bizarre.

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I have a lot of questions for you.

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Ooh, I'm ready.

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So Mulder says that scientists on that project, this was a like just, it was a, it was a,

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it was just, it was contemporary with the Manhattan project.

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It sounds like that scientists on this project all disappeared on their way to Roswell.

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Like they were finishing up the experiment and they were going to go to Roswell and they

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disappeared.

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This I did not fact check, but I expected is not correct.

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And that they had been trying, the government was working on like making ships or submarines

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or something invisible.

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And Mulder thinks that they're messing around with wormholes involved some sort of aliens

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because of the Roswell connection.

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And he thinks that the military never stopped with those experiments.

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Oh, neat.

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So my first question for you is what is a wormhole?

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They're theoretical.

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It's not like we can prove that they're a real thing, but the idea is that it would

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be something my understanding as somebody who, okay, studied physics, but it's not like

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wormholes and that stuff is my specialty.

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Is that it's something that would be created by a black hole?

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Oh, okay.

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Do you feel comfortable with what a black hole is?

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And do we feel our listeners are?

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I believe so because a book I just finished reading talked about a black hole.

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My understanding is that when a, okay, I don't know how correct this is.

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You'll correct me.

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Yeah, go for it.

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Please, I say some really appalling things about biology on this podcast.

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That when a star reaches a certain size, the gravity of it starts pulling itself towards

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the center.

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And we get this super gravitational.

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I don't know what word I want to use there.

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Super something with a super strong gravitational pull that like pulls the light into the center

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and then things start getting pulled in too.

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Yeah, basically.

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So like, okay, all stars are going to reach the end of their life at some point because

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the fuel is going to burn out and stars are in a constant tension between gravity to collapse

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them inward and the reactions that are happening within the star that are kind of blowing

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them outward.

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So for them to be in sort of a stasis is like a war between those things.

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Eventually as stars get bigger, they will collapse.

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What happens then depends on the mass of the star.

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Stars like our sun not going to turn into a black hole.

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Oh, that's good.

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I mean, sure.

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We'll all be dead by then anyway.

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So it doesn't really matter.

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Yeah, because what's going to happen first to our sun is it's going to expand into the

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red giant stage and it's going to have a radius about out to somewhere in the Earth Mars region.

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So we're going to get swallowed up by the sun regardless.

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So it's not great.

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Stellar.

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Oh, nice.

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Nice.

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Didn't even mean that one.

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That was beautiful.

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So what is our what type of star is our sun?

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What is it now?

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It's a main sequence star.

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It's sort of middle age.

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We've still got plenty of time.

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We're not, you know, you know, it, it, I'm not exactly sure how long, but very, very,

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very long before it does anything.

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So cool.

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Okay.

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It expands outward and then it collapses inward and there was like an explosion called a nova.

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And then what's left behind after that explosion depends again on the mass of the star.

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So it might leave behind nothing much of interest like a brown dwarf.

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It might leave if it's more massive, it leaves behind a neutron star, which is just what

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it sounds like.

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It's a star made of neutrons mostly and they're incredibly dense.

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So like if you were to manage to get a spoonful of neutron star, like a teaspoon full of it,

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it would weigh, I want to say about as much as the earth.

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I might have that a little bit wrong, but that's about right.

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So it's very, very, very dense and neutron stars are interesting.

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They rotate and you can use them as sort of a like standard thing to measure.

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Cause we have a sense of what their rotation should be.

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And so like looking at their rotation can help us time other things and figure out where

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things are in the sky.

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It's been a while since I've thought about this, but then once you get stars that are

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massive enough, even beyond a neutron star, when they collapse, they're, because how strong

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gravity in is doesn't just depend on mass.

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It depends on the density, right?

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So earth's gravity is what it is because of how massive is earth is, but also the size

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of earth.

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The formula is like mass in the numerator, r squared, the radius squared in the denominator.

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So like the more compact the mass, the stronger the gravity.

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And so what's happening in sort of a like runaway situation is you picture, it's already

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really, really dense.

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And then we get the mask gets pulled in even harder because of how strong the gravity is,

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but then that makes the gravity even stronger, which pulls the mass in even more, which makes

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it even more dense, et cetera, et cetera.

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And so the gravitational pull is super, super strong.

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And it starts, you know, it's pulling things in the black hole is, but we can't even see

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what's happening there because it is not even letting light escape because of how strong

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the gravitational pull is.

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And so the theory is that that sort of incredibly dense collapsing of matter into itself can

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create a wormhole or some sort of connection or terror in things to another place in the

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universe, maybe.

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And that would be.

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And that's the part that's theoretical.

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So we know that everything, you know, prior to the wormhole situation with the black hole,

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it has been that is really.

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Yep.

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Yeah, that is real.

331
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Okay.

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Why don't we care about brown dwarfs?

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That sounds sad.

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Why are they that interesting?

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So a brown dwarf is like sometimes called like a failed star.

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Like it's like, that is really sad, isn't it?

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Like when I say it like that, like they think that like, like planets like Jupiter almost

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could be considered that they're basically like, they didn't quite get it together enough

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to shine.

340
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Oh, I feel like every single thing I'm saying is making this worse.

341
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I don't know how to describe them in a way that isn't sad.

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Yeah, I think is far in a way the coolest planet, not temperature wise, but yeah, it's

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the awesome.

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Yeah, it's the awesomest.

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So I mean, if they're like Jupiter, I think that's pretty cool.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they're described as sub-stellar.

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This again, kind of sad.

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Yeah.

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Why does it make me think of Gatsby?

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Oh, he's kind of a golden dwarf.

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He's sub-stellar.

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Yeah, he's sub-stellar.

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Oh, and I'm so sorry when I said, but I made a mistake earlier.

355
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I wasn't thinking when I said brown dwarfs would be left behind, that was on me.

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That's a mistake.

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Brown dwarfs are sort of stars that never get off the ground, you know, like they don't

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quite get it together.

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A white dwarf is what's left behind, like that's what our star would leave behind after

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it goes supernova.

361
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So, okay.

362
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Okay, so sorry about that.

363
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And again, the dwarf is just kind of like the size of the star and then the color, the

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brown or white is talking about the light that it's emitting, like white dwarf, just

365
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we're talking about white light, brown dwarf, it's meaning like it is not really shining.

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It's not really doing it's thing.

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It doesn't quite have enough fusion happening to do its thing and maintain itself as a star.

368
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Yeah, I feel like this is also some sort of metaphor for Gatsby's intelligence.

369
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Oh, we just don't quite have it together.

370
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No.

371
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Well, thank you.

372
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Awesome.

373
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You're welcome.

374
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Very interesting.

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So Mulder things wormholes are involved.

376
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Okay, I mean, yeah.

377
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Right.

378
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Okay.

379
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Yeah.

380
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So, so this was when I was like, okay, well how often do so he's saying that all these

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ships disappeared near the 65th parallel of Norway and I was like, well, how often do

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ships disappear?

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And I started looking it up and the answer is frequently and it's not mysterious.

384
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Really?

385
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Because I mean, yeah, like so you start looking into it and it's like, oh, you know, the Mary

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Celeste, this famous ship that disappeared.

387
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Oh, yeah, the Mary Celeste.

388
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I've heard of that.

389
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And then it's like, you know, like what could be the theories?

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The theories are like, well, pirates or the people got off somewhere.

391
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Like there's like not, it's not that big of a mystery.

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But if they got off somewhere, would they have like told someone?

393
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I mean, maybe.

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But like this was a long time ago.

395
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Yeah.

396
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Yeah.

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And so I was like, well, when was the most recent ship disappearance?

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And the answer is 2008.

399
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But that, no, but it wasn't actually a disappearance.

400
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It's just that the ship sank and they don't know where it is.

401
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Okay.

402
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Well, okay, the ocean is giant.

403
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So that doesn't really like like ships.

404
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I don't know.

405
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Maybe this comes down to how often I have been on Wikipedia when I can't sleep at night,

406
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sometimes looking at poodles, sometimes looking at shipwrecks in the Great Lakes, because

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one of the two.

408
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

410
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It's a coin flip.

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Yeah.

412
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I don't know.

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I find that fascinating.

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Yeah.

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Like in Weston, yes.

416
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I think that's super interesting because like their lakes, what are they doing?

417
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Swallowing ships and, you know.

418
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I know.

419
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Yeah.

420
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Yeah.

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What are they doing?

422
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Being that big.

423
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Right.

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So I don't know.

425
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It doesn't, none of these seem actually that mysterious to me.

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It's like, well, they sank and we can't find them.

427
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Okay.

428
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Okay.

429
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Or the people got off somewhere or were taken and we don't know where.

430
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Like again.

431
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But then that all made me think of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370.

432
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I was just going to bring that up.

433
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Yeah.

434
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Ah, yes.

435
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Do you know the story?

436
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Do you know what the deal is with that?

437
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What I recall, because it wasn't that long ago.

438
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No, it was 2014.

439
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Yeah.

440
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It's like, okay, so clearly I don't know that much.

441
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Do you want me to just tell you?

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Plane disappeared.

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Plane disappeared.

444
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Yeah.

445
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Don't know where plane went.

446
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That's what I know.

447
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Right.

448
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Yeah.

449
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So this was March 8th, 2014.

450
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Okay.

451
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So this was going from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia to Beijing in China, Beijing Capital International

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Airport.

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And it last communicated with air traffic control 38 minutes after takeoff when it was

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over the South China Sea.

455
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So like it's, I looked at the map because as we're all aware, my geography is not strong.

456
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Neither of us.

457
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It's not our strong suit.

458
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Yeah.

459
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It's not.

460
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But look at you describe a black hole and all these different stars.

461
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Yeah.

462
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Yeah.

463
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Who needs geography?

464
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So it's pretty much like a straight and northern shot from Malaysia to Beijing.

465
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Okay.

466
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So just like pretty much where it was going.

467
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Now what I would have guessed.

468
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Good to know.

469
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Okay.

470
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Yeah.

471
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And most of that is over land.

472
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Okay.

473
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Or a lot or you know, like islands and you know, there's stuff.

474
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It's not like over the Pacific or something, you know.

475
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And so 38 minutes after takeoff and then they had some like secondary surveillance on it.

476
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That saw it like a few minutes later.

477
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And then the Malaysian military had radar on it for another hour after that.

478
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But it was deviating straight westward.

479
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Whoa.

480
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Why was it doing that?

481
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They don't know.

482
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,080
Okay.

483
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So it was, it had been, it should have gone straight north and sometime over the South

484
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China Sea.

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Like a hard west.

486
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It took a hard west.

487
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And started, started traveling straight west, which it shouldn't have done.

488
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And so over the past like 10 years, like as recently as 2023, there have been pieces

489
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of it that have washed up a shore.

490
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And it's clear that it like continued straight west for a while kind of towards the Indian

491
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Ocean.

492
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And so they have never found the wreck.

493
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They've never found the black box.

494
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They have never found any bodies washing a shore.

495
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And so they don't really know what happened.

496
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There are theories that like it could have been a plot by someone like it could have been

497
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either the captain or passenger, some sort of terrorist event.

498
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If it's a terrorist event though, usually terrorists want like the part of that is to

499
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generate terror.

500
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So you get like, you want creds for that, you know.

501
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Right.

502
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And that's why that's not a popular theory.

503
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Yeah.

504
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,640
Yeah.

505
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,160
And the evidence that they do have from the pieces that have washed ashore.

506
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,200
And I, I don't know.

507
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,120
I don't know why I'm not anywhere.

508
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I have nothing, no aviation information in my brain.

509
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,360
Okay.

510
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Except the planes go in there and they get us places.

511
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,560
But evidence apparently shows from those pieces that it likely wasn't being controlled

512
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when it crashed.

513
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,880
Oh, I have no idea how a piece of thing could show that.

514
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,080
When you said wasn't being controlled, do you mean wasn't being like piloted?

515
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Like it was just lighting like a glider.

516
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And then like eventually ran out and like spiraled is what they think.

517
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So the, the most likely theory is that there was some sort of hypoxia event.

518
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I was just going to guess if everybody died on board or something.

519
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That's the most likely.

520
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:56,320
And it was on autopilot and just kind of kept going.

521
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And yeah, they don't know why.

522
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The only part of that, that doesn't horrify me quite as much is because like dying of

523
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,720
hypoxia induces like kind of a high, like it wouldn't have been a terrible death for

524
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everyone.

525
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,560
I mean, frankly, better that than dying, you know, 10 minutes later when you crash into

526
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the ocean, right?

527
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,560
Totally.

528
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,560
Yes.

529
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,560
Yeah.

530
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Yeah.

531
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,560
Yeah.

532
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:27,200
And I, I, I fly a lot and I, but I guess I should keep in mind how many people die of

533
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,440
hypoxia not in planes.

534
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,440
Yeah.

535
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,440
Yeah.

536
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,440
Kind of a lot.

537
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,440
Yeah.

538
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,440
Yeah.

539
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080
I have a, how many planes?

540
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,320
I mean, this is notable because air travel is so safe.

541
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,320
Right.

542
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,320
Yeah.

543
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,320
Yeah.

544
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,320
You have a what?

545
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,920
A little portable carbon monoxide detector that brings me when I travel.

546
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,920
Yeah.

547
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,920
Really?

548
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,920
Yeah.

549
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,240
I mean, in Europe, it's not too big of a deal, but occasionally you hear about it in hotels

550
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,320
in Mexico.

551
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,320
People will die.

552
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,680
Like it's rare, but it's not impossible.

553
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,120
Like it happened a couple of years ago.

554
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,840
And so it's just, just to be on the safe side.

555
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,200
However, I gotta get a different model, but just the one that I have, like there's like

556
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,000
a button on the front of it that you can push to test it.

557
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,120
And if I shove it in my bag and then I like kick my bag or something, it starts beeping.

558
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:24,680
I was on a train last summer in Europe and I like called the conductor over into our little

559
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,240
like train compartment and I was like, there's like a beeping.

560
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,000
Do you know what that is?

561
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240
And he was trying to turn it off and trying to help me and he's like, I'm sorry.

562
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,920
I don't know what that's from.

563
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,880
And I'm like, he left and I was with you.

564
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,880
It was me.

565
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,680
I was like, oh my God, it's my stupid thing beeping.

566
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,920
I moved my foot onto my bag.

567
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,320
I was like propping my feet onto my, my luggage.

568
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,320
Yeah.

569
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Oh man.

570
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Yeah.

571
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,320
Yeah.

572
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,320
That's smart.

573
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,320
Yeah.

574
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,320
I think, I think it's a good idea.

575
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,240
I just think it's good to get one that is can't be accidentally triggered.

576
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,200
I was being cheap and so I was getting one that like is not that can also be mounted

577
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,320
and I need one that's meant for travel and is a little bit sportier.

578
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,320
I don't know.

579
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Yeah.

580
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,680
Anyway, God, well that makes some sense, but is right.

581
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Yeah.

582
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,680
Yeah.

583
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Oh boy.

584
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,680
Right.

585
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,200
So, okay.

586
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,440
So Mulder wants to go to Norway and makes it clear.

587
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,720
Scully said something like, you know, have you told Skinner?

588
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,560
And no, I mean the answer is no.

589
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Of course not.

590
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,560
Yeah.

591
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,240
And Scully says she's coming with.

592
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,560
And so they get to Norway and they're trying to get information from some guys in a bar,

593
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,480
but no one will talk to them.

594
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,080
I don't know if it's because they're in like a fishing village bar and they don't speak

595
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,560
English or if they like, they say something about everyone looking scared or something.

596
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,080
I don't know.

597
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,840
But then they run into an American.

598
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Okay.

599
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:55,480
And he says that he has been, he's from like Florida, but he's been, I almost said piloting,

600
00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,640
captaining ships in Norway for a long time or whatever and people won't talk to them

601
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:07,680
because they're scared of a story of a stone coming out of the sky and that they say it

602
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,200
was an evil God.

603
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,200
I'm sorry.

604
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,920
I think this makes Norwegians sound like, I don't know, caveman or something.

605
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,640
Like, like the great stone came out of the sky.

606
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,640
I don't know.

607
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,640
Yeah.

608
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,640
Wait.

609
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,640
And I'm sorry.

610
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,640
Hang on.

611
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Hang on.

612
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,640
They won't talk to him because they're worried about a big.

613
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,640
They won't talk to Mulder.

614
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,640
They won't talk to Mulder.

615
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,640
Because they're scared.

616
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,000
Because they're scared about the big sky stone.

617
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Yes.

618
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Fair enough.

619
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Okay.

620
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000
Okay.

621
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720
But he'll take them out to that part of the sea if they pay him.

622
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,720
Okay.

623
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,120
So they're on a boat, Mulder, Sully has been watching too much Monsters Inc.

624
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,280
We have a dog named Sully in our neighborhood that's real cute.

625
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,280
Oh, I bet.

626
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,000
Archer was a jerk to him on our morning walk today.

627
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960
Barked out, doesn't care for him.

628
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,200
Also not surprising.

629
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,200
Yeah.

630
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480
Now he's very opposed to the existence of other dogs.

631
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,680
Anyway, so Sully and Mulder go on a boat with the American.

632
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,680
Yeah.

633
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,120
Sully has good sea legs.

634
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:13,960
Mulder says Mulder has bad sea legs.

635
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,200
Getting very emotion sick.

636
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Okay.

637
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,880
And so they're on the boat and something starts messing with the radar and with the navigation

638
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,640
system.

639
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,760
And suddenly there's another ship just like in front of them that they run into.

640
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Oh, like physically run into?

641
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,720
Oh, okay.

642
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,720
Yep.

643
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,760
And it's the missing ship.

644
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:40,680
And so they go on to it and the captain says that with the corrosion that's present on

645
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040
it, it looks like no one has been there for 20 or 30 years.

646
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,560
But of course we know it hasn't been that long.

647
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Right.

648
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,320
So they go down to check the cruise quarters and there are all these bodies down there

649
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,560
that look mummified, except there's some sort of strange residue on them.

650
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,000
Oh, this does have a fire, ice, et cetera, feel to it.

651
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,360
Yep.

652
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:11,440
And so then they hear noise and the rest of the crew just took the ship and left Mulder,

653
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,720
Sully and the captain on the stranded ship full of bodies and.

654
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Oh my God.

655
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,720
Okay.

656
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Yeah.

657
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,960
So there's, oh, and there's the first mate is also with them.

658
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,960
That's right.

659
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Okay.

660
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,960
One other guy.

661
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Okay.

662
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
So the American was running, not the, from the ghost boat.

663
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,960
Okay.

664
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,120
Right.

665
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:39,480
And so they start trying to fix the ghost boat, for lack of a better term, it has a name.

666
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,000
I didn't catch it.

667
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,680
But the residue seems to be corroding everything.

668
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,080
And the first mate kind of runs off for some reason and they find him with a fractured skull

669
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,920
dead.

670
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,320
And they hear someone else kind of talking and hear some noise.

671
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,640
And so they go to follow it to find, you know, who killed the first mate.

672
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,200
And there's a guy hiding who looks super old.

673
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Okay.

674
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,760
And he's cradling a body of whiskey.

675
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,640
A body of, did you say a bottle?

676
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,640
A bottle of whiskey.

677
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,640
A bottle of whiskey.

678
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,640
Gotcha.

679
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,640
To which I wrote, fair.

680
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,640
Yeah.

681
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Right.

682
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,480
And it's the captain from the intro.

683
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,160
It's captain Barkley is his name.

684
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120
So he was the one who was like.

685
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,640
Yellig and people and stuff.

686
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Mutiny.

687
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Yeah.

688
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,640
Yeah.

689
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,480
And he says that they saw something burning come out of the sky.

690
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,440
And the American captain is like pissed and thinks he's the one who killed the first

691
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960
mate and is calling him a liar and stuff.

692
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,400
And Scully tells him that like, you know, it's okay, we're going to do what we can to

693
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,680
help you.

694
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,920
And he says, what can you do to help?

695
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,280
I'm 35 years old, which I thought was funny because I'm 35.

696
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640
And yeah, yeah, it looks like 90, you know, right?

697
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Yeah.

698
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Yeah.

699
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:04,640
And so the American captain whose name I later Trondheim, I think is his name or Trondheim.

700
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,640
Oh, really?

701
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Because that's the name of a city in Norway.

702
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Hmm.

703
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,640
Yeah.

704
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,640
I don't know.

705
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,040
And it's like writing the either that or they were like writing the episode and they

706
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,240
were like looking at a map of Norway and then someone was like, hey, we need a name for

707
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,400
this character and they just like looked at it or something.

708
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:32,840
So we see him, the American captain, pushing Halverson, the first mate off the side of

709
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,840
the boat.

710
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,400
So like giving him, you know, a burial at sea sort of a thing.

711
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Yeah.

712
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,680
And he's talking to him and saying, you are a good first mate.

713
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760
You always left me alone.

714
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,880
And I don't know that just struck me as funny.

715
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:54,400
And so then someone starts attacking him after he pushes Halverson's body overboard, but

716
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,600
Mulder gets there and pulls the gun on him and stops, stops him.

717
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Okay.

718
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,960
I will say this real quick.

719
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,840
There's no one called Trondheim in this episode.

720
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,840
I went on IMDB.

721
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840
What's his name?

722
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,880
Well, I'm not there is a Lieutenant Harper and there's a captain Barclay.

723
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Right.

724
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,880
Okay.

725
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Yeah.

726
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080
And there's the Ionesco.

727
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,160
And there's a sailor.

728
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:28,880
And yeah, I mean, there's like a dude with like a kind of classically handsome sort of

729
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560
face and I don't know.

730
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,600
I don't know, but he would have been young at this point.

731
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,080
I don't know.

732
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,560
You know, they're not naming anyone named here.

733
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,680
Let me see if I can see all cast and crew.

734
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,520
Let's be very thorough here.

735
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,200
Is there any other ways we just accept the American captain?

736
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Oh my God.

737
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Oh my God.

738
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,200
No, no, no, no, no, you're right.

739
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,200
He just wasn't listed.

740
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,200
I mean, Trondheim.

741
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,200
Ha.

742
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200
You are right.

743
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,200
I'm sorry.

744
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200
I feel good about that.

745
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Yeah.

746
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,200
I thought maybe my notaking was awful.

747
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:04,480
It's just bizarre because like why would they have the American be named that, you know?

748
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,480
Right.

749
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,880
Like there was a Norwegian captain in the U.S. named Chicago or something.

750
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,880
Yes.

751
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880
That's exactly what it's like.

752
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Yeah.

753
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:19,080
Anyway, Trondheim is at the 64th parallel North, if you were interested.

754
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080
I am now.

755
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,080
Great.

756
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,520
Maybe it's his nickname because he's lived in there.

757
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,520
Yeah.

758
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,520
I like it.

759
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Like, yeah.

760
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,520
Oh, that's our friend who always goes to Norway.

761
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520
We call him Trondheim.

762
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Yeah.

763
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:45,080
So Trondheim knows the blonde guy who looks very Norwegian and who is blonde, tall blonde

764
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,960
guy with a beard who had been attacking him and apparently he's a whaler.

765
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:58,200
And so now I have a story regarding whalers.

766
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,200
It's good though.

767
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200
It's anti whaler.

768
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,360
Great.

769
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,400
So Zach went to high school with this guy named Willie.

770
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,880
You have a look like where is this going?

771
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,880
I do.

772
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Yeah, I'm just going to tell you this is just a very interesting old friend of Zach's.

773
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:26,640
After college became a naval engineer who designed warships and saved up like all this

774
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:33,840
money, like made just tons and tons of money and then quit his job and spent two years biking

775
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:40,520
across the country and was just like biking across the country, across the U.S.

776
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,160
So this is in Wisconsin and he went to these coasts, west coast.

777
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,160
He ran into my in-laws, Zach's parents in Seattle.

778
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,080
Like they just happened he had biked to Seattle.

779
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,520
That is familiar and insane.

780
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,320
But yeah, I think I remember you saying that.

781
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,240
And so then after his whole biking adventure, he joined a ship in the Southern Ocean to

782
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:08,080
stop whalers and was on like some sort of TV show about like people that are like trying

783
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:14,160
to stop the whaling industry and like the boats and stuff.

784
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,240
So yeah, that's what that's what made me think of him.

785
00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:19,360
Yeah, yeah, for real.

786
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,680
Yeah.

787
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,120
So they take Olyphson, we find out is his name, the blind guy.

788
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,840
Take him to the cabin and they find Captain Barkley has died.

789
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:36,480
And he has the same sort of stuff growing on him and it seems salt like some sort of,

790
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,480
you know.

791
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,920
That is familiar.

792
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,240
All of a sudden I feel like, oh, now I remember this episode from salt like stuff.

793
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:44,240
Okay.

794
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:45,240
Yeah.

795
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:48,800
And so they say they're going to tie up Olyphson and get some rest.

796
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,000
And when they wake up, they look at each other and now they look old.

797
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Okay.

798
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,720
And how is the old person makeup in 1995?

799
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,320
Not awful, not good.

800
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,320
Okay.

801
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Yeah.

802
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,320
Yeah.

803
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,320
Yeah.

804
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,520
I found a picture recently.

805
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,640
I was on ancestry.com and like they have, I don't know how they do this stuff and it

806
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,200
should freak me out a little bit maybe, but there's a picture of me from the high school

807
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,520
newspaper when I was in Antigone.

808
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,520
Whoa.

809
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,520
Yeah.

810
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:27,640
And when I, when I looked myself up and I wasn't in the picture, but I had to wear

811
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,960
old person makeup for my role in it.

812
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Yeah.

813
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,960
That's right.

814
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,960
But it was real weird.

815
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Yeah.

816
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,960
That is weird.

817
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,080
I thought you said that you were in the picture.

818
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,160
Oh, you weren't wearing the makeup in the picture.

819
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Right.

820
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,160
I was wearing the makeup.

821
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Yeah.

822
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Yeah.

823
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,120
And so they start talking about possibilities and Mulder thinks it's a time warp and which

824
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,880
I again, don't know why, don't know how, but it's Mulder.

825
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,120
I also just feel like that's just like, I don't know, what does that mean?

826
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,120
You can just say it.

827
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,120
I don't know.

828
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,120
It's a time warp.

829
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Okay.

830
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Yeah.

831
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,120
It's a jump to the left.

832
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Exactly.

833
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,960
I'm thinking now.

834
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,480
And Scully says, Mulder, what do you know about free radicals?

835
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Which made me think of another side story.

836
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,920
If you recall when we had a Mary Kay lady come to our apartment when we lived together,

837
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,920
when I was in college.

838
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,280
It was like a friend of a friend, right?

839
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,280
Like, yes.

840
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,280
Yeah.

841
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,000
And she basically like came, showed up and insulted us.

842
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Yes.

843
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,760
And she kept talking about free radicals.

844
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:44,120
And I remember I was in like intro chemistry at the time and was like, oh, so how, how

845
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:49,480
did free radicals, you know, relate to this makeup?

846
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,880
And I can't remember.

847
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,520
She said something real dumb.

848
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,760
I can't remember what it was off the top of my head.

849
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,960
But I do remember that she told me that she could tell me some tricks for my eyeliner to

850
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,480
make my eyes look less close set.

851
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,480
God.

852
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Yeah.

853
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,960
And I was like, oh, I didn't know I needed to worry about that.

854
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,920
I remember her telling me about like some anti wrinkle cream that I might want.

855
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,920
And I was 25.

856
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,560
I think that was the free radical stuff.

857
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,560
Oh, okay.

858
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,560
Yeah.

859
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,560
Yeah.

860
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,560
25.

861
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,560
25.

862
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,560
Yeah.

863
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Yeah.

864
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,080
So Scully correctly says that they are highly reactive chemicals that are carrying

865
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:36,120
extra electrons and that the prevailing theory on how our bodies age is that, you know, the

866
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,640
damage from free radicals can cause cells to break down.

867
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,480
And so Scully's theory is that there's a meteor or some sort of other highly magnetic

868
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,200
source nearby, maybe under the ocean.

869
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,480
And the ocean is acting like a battery.

870
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,160
And so they're encountering a huge number of free radicals.

871
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Okay.

872
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,160
Yeah.

873
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,280
I feel like that's not the worst theory.

874
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,280
Yeah.

875
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,280
Yeah.

876
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,280
That could be worse.

877
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,280
Yeah.

878
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,280
Absolutely.

879
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,280
Yeah.

880
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,360
So then they notice something stripping from the ceiling and its rust and they notice that

881
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,960
one of, so all the pipes are corroded except for one.

882
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,480
There's one line that hasn't been corroded.

883
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,000
And so they start following that and they find a bunch of rats drinking clean water.

884
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000
Okay.

885
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,400
You always got to follow the rats and follow the rats.

886
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400
Is that a thing?

887
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Like follow the rats?

888
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,400
I don't know.

889
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400
It's a, I feel like it is.

890
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
I don't know.

891
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,960
I mean, it is now.

892
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,280
It seems kind of smart.

893
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,280
I don't know.

894
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,280
Yeah.

895
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,280
Yeah.

896
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,280
Yeah.

897
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,400
Oh, you know what I'm thinking of is the follow the spiders thing from Harry Potter in the

898
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Chamber of Secrets.

899
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,120
But you know what?

900
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,120
Oh yeah, but that's completely different though.

901
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,120
That's completely different.

902
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,120
You want to find a big spider.

903
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Like, right.

904
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Yeah, not like if you follow the rats, eventually you get to a giant rat.

905
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Oh, that would be awesome.

906
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,480
It would.

907
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Yeah.

908
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Follow it long enough and you're going to get to a rat that's like the size of a hippopotamus.

909
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,200
I would love that.

910
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Oh, it's so cute.

911
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaking of this, essentially, have you ever looked at an ant's face highly magnified?

912
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,560
No, I'd be too afraid, I think.

913
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,160
That's the most horrifying thing.

914
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,880
Oh, I'm not going to Google it.

915
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Okay.

916
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,880
I was about to.

917
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,400
So horrifying.

918
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,960
I saw it on like Instagram or something and someone had posted like, oh, thank God, they're

919
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,960
so tiny.

920
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,440
And I was like, there is no way that's what they actually look like.

921
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480
And I Googled it and now I can never unsee it.

922
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,040
It is horrifying.

923
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,040
Wow.

924
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,040
Yeah.

925
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Do I want to know why?

926
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Is it like a clustered holes sort of thing with a, like the tulip?

927
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,040
It's like a monster.

928
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,040
I don't know.

929
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,840
It's like a demon.

930
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,840
Wow.

931
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,480
It's just so terrifying.

932
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520
So honey, I shrink the kids made it too cute.

933
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,520
When they were in the app.

934
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Okay.

935
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Much.

936
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,520
Yeah.

937
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,800
But giant rats, I feel like I would.

938
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,800
I should get that.

939
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,800
Sure.

940
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,800
I mean, we know what a rat is.

941
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,800
Like rats are big enough we can see their faces and I'd be into it.

942
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,800
And they're adorable.

943
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,800
Yeah.

944
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,800
Yeah.

945
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:27,800
So there's some sort of stash of clean water going through the pipes.

946
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,800
Okay.

947
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Possibly like for the sewage or something.

948
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,280
I don't know.

949
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,200
But there's a reservoir of clean water on board.

950
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,960
And so Scully thinks that it's something in the water that is affecting them because

951
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,960
there's this one clean pipe.

952
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Okay.

953
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,160
And it's like a separate water and everything else is rusted and being affected.

954
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,160
Right.

955
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,480
And she thinks that Barkley was alive for so long because he'd been mostly drinking

956
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,480
whiskey.

957
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Oh, that's funny.

958
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Yeah.

959
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,480
Okay.

960
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Yeah.

961
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,800
And so they go back and Olyphson, we saw a short part where he had convinced the captain

962
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,840
to let him go.

963
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,280
And the captain is now claiming that he escaped.

964
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,280
And Scully.

965
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,280
Yeah.

966
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,320
And Scully says with little prompting that she's going to need blood and urine samples

967
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,120
from both the colder and the captain, which again, I feel like this has happened before.

968
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Yeah.

969
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:31,080
And so we see her taking notes and she's saying that they apparently have huge amounts of sodium

970
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:37,320
chloride in their blood, which like hypernatremia is a thing, huge amounts of sodium chloride,

971
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,800
like too much in our bodies.

972
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,800
Is that salt?

973
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,800
Sodium chloride.

974
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,800
Okay.

975
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,800
Yeah.

976
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,520
And it doesn't cause this.

977
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,680
It doesn't make you old.

978
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Okay.

979
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,680
No.

980
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,680
We know what it does.

981
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,880
It causes like seizures and unconsciousness and muscle weakness.

982
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,520
And like, you know, that's not something I can get from like eating too much salt.

983
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Just eating it, right?

984
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:06,400
No, it's more, I mean, if you, if your sodium is too high, it's, it is, so you can get too

985
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
high sodium from eating too much salt.

986
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Sure.

987
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:15,600
So it can be bad for your heart and bad for other things, but it would have to be like

988
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,960
from severe dehydration to cause like extreme hypernatremia.

989
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,880
That would not just like man, I'm really in the mood for a bunch of potato chips.

990
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,880
Yeah.

991
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,880
Okay.

992
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,880
No, right.

993
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Yeah.

994
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,480
I mean, you shouldn't have too much salt, but, but for unrelated reasons and things that

995
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,200
are not going to either cause unconsciousness and seizures or cause sudden aging.

996
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,200
Got to right.

997
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Yeah.

998
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,200
I feel very comfortable.

999
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,840
I eat a lot of salt, but I feel very comfortable with the amount of salt I eat.

1000
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,800
So yeah, I mean, your doctor would tell you if you had too high salt.

1001
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,360
So like, I mean, I have good blood pressure.

1002
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,200
If you so, it's probably fine.

1003
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,200
Yeah.

1004
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Yeah.

1005
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Yeah.

1006
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Um, salt is delicious.

1007
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,200
That's a thing.

1008
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,200
It really is.

1009
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Yeah.

1010
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,200
It really is.

1011
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:08,320
I, oh God, when I was in Cyprus and I lived in Cyprus for almost a month, one summer, on

1012
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,160
an archeological dig and we, it was so hot.

1013
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,000
They told us to drink a lot of water, but then you also have to eat a lot of salt.

1014
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,320
Oh, because you're looking at all like, yes.

1015
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,320
Yeah.

1016
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,320
Wow.

1017
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,320
Right.

1018
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,000
So you need the salt in order to essentially hang on to that water and be stable.

1019
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,320
And so it was awesome.

1020
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400
It was like free reign tea.

1021
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,400
They were like encouraging potato chip eating.

1022
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,400
It was great.

1023
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Oh, that's awesome.

1024
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Nice.

1025
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,320
Um, so Mulder is faring worse than Scully and the captain.

1026
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,040
And the captain starts trying to convince her to start looking out for themselves and

1027
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,160
to like, uh, let Mulder die.

1028
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,160
Essentially.

1029
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Oh God.

1030
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,760
Because their, their water is running low.

1031
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,280
And so like, let's save ourselves.

1032
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,720
How long have they been on this boat?

1033
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:58,720
Not that long.

1034
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,040
I don't think like a day.

1035
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Okay.

1036
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,160
I guess you need water a lot though.

1037
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,160
Yeah.

1038
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,160
Yeah.

1039
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Still.

1040
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:12,400
Or cause I, I think they later say something like 36 hours or, I mean, still not like,

1041
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,400
okay.

1042
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Deadly, but I guess if they're, they also have a ton of salt in them, then they're

1043
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,600
going to need more.

1044
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Yeah.

1045
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,600
Yeah.

1046
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Um, so Scully finds a snow globe in a cabinet and combines that with sardine juice and a

1047
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:37,280
few lemons to make a drink and, uh, that's fine.

1048
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,280
That does not sound good.

1049
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,280
Okay.

1050
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,280
Yep.

1051
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,280
No.

1052
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,280
Yeah.

1053
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Um, Chantheim, the captain has locked himself in the sewage hold with the clean water and

1054
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,600
is hoarding it.

1055
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,600
Oh.

1056
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:55,680
And, uh, so Scully brings the water, well, water in huge quotes, brings the, the, the

1057
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,240
cocktail that she's made.

1058
00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:58,240
Yeah.

1059
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:03,040
Um, back to Mulder and is trying to get him to drink it cause he's worse off and he says,

1060
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,320
no, she should drink it because she's a woman and not for like a, at first I was like,

1061
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,200
excuse me Mulder, but no, because like she naturally will hang onto more water because

1062
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,400
women have a higher percentage of water, um, and more fat, uh, higher fat percentage to

1063
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,400
hold onto it.

1064
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,200
And so he says like, you have a better chance of making it out.

1065
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Oh, I see.

1066
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Okay.

1067
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,840
You should, you should take it.

1068
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,240
And so they hear some sort of huge noise and the ship starts shaking and apparently the

1069
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,400
hull broke and they're taking on water.

1070
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,840
And during the shaking of that, the quote unquote water, the cocktail broke.

1071
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,520
So they don't have that even anymore.

1072
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:52,080
So, um, Chantheim is locked, uh, has locked himself in the sewage area or wherever the

1073
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,400
clean water is.

1074
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,840
But now that's filling up with water.

1075
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,320
And so, cause that's where the hole broke and he's trapped.

1076
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,000
Um, and it doesn't go well for him.

1077
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Okay.

1078
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,320
And, uh, yeah.

1079
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Um, and so it just shows Mulder and Scully talking some more and they're talking about

1080
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,360
like how it's really not fair that this is how they're going to die, you know, like,

1081
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,760
yeah, don't see a way of rescue and that sucks.

1082
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,760
I'm going to be honest.

1083
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,080
I don't, I don't know what's going to happen here.

1084
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,080
Like, yeah.

1085
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,680
And we're getting towards the end of the episode.

1086
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,400
And Scully says that, uh, she tells him about something she experienced when she was waking

1087
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,200
up from being kidnapped and that she said that there's nothing to fear with death.

1088
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,080
Um, nothing to fear on the other side.

1089
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,800
And I wonder if she's talking about, um, the nurse.

1090
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,800
Do you remember that?

1091
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,800
Oh yeah.

1092
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,800
That she talked to.

1093
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,800
Yeah.

1094
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,800
Yeah.

1095
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,360
The mystery nurse who wasn't really there and Scully's in the rowboat and all that.

1096
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,360
Right.

1097
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Yeah.

1098
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:55,400
And Scully is dictating and tells the viewers that Mulder has lost consciousness.

1099
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Oh God.

1100
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Yeah.

1101
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000
So then someone finds them.

1102
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:08,200
Um, someone somehow comes and rescues them and, uh, we see Scully wake up in the hospital

1103
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,680
and the same doctor who treated the first guy who kicked Scully out, um, is there and

1104
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:20,600
is treating them and said that Scully's responding well to the dialysis and, uh, that Mulder is

1105
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,600
treated.

1106
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,600
So they're getting treated in the U S.

1107
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,600
Yeah.

1108
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,760
Presumably they were brought back to the U S to Bethesda.

1109
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,760
Okay.

1110
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,760
I don't know.

1111
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,760
I guess that makes sense.

1112
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600
But also if it's that urgent, I feel like Norway has good medical care.

1113
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Go to a hospital in Oslo or whatever.

1114
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Yeah.

1115
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,960
Like big cities.

1116
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Yeah.

1117
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,960
That's weird.

1118
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:41,960
All right.

1119
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Um, maybe they were initially in the hospital unconscious.

1120
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,080
I don't know.

1121
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Yeah.

1122
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Okay.

1123
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,960
Um, Mulder's endocrine system was apparently worse off, but that the log book that Scully

1124
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,440
had been keeping and the tests that she did on their blood and urine, which I don't know

1125
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,520
how she was doing tests.

1126
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,520
I don't know.

1127
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,520
That's all very vague.

1128
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,520
Yeah.

1129
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Like I like the idea that she's sort of like a MacGyver type biologist where she could

1130
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:12,400
just, you know, given some blood and like, I don't know, duct tape and a coffee mug.

1131
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,160
And like, I don't know.

1132
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,160
Yeah.

1133
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,160
Coffee filters.

1134
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,160
Yeah.

1135
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,720
Um, but that the nose cheek helped pinpoint which treatments to give them.

1136
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:22,960
So they're going to be okay.

1137
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Okay.

1138
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,960
Yeah.

1139
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,160
So Scully wants to find out more, but the doctor says that the ship sunk one hour after

1140
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,960
they were rescued and they still look old.

1141
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,960
And that's the end of the episode.

1142
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,960
What?

1143
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Oh.

1144
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:51,080
So presumably the treatments are going to reverse the damage that was done.

1145
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,080
Yeah.

1146
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,120
Um, but yeah.

1147
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,920
So next up is humbug.

1148
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,800
You'll have to tell us if they still are old looking and humbug.

1149
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,080
I will let you know.

1150
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,600
And I've seen the episode humbug a number of times.

1151
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,800
I don't recall them looking old.

1152
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,800
So yeah.

1153
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,800
Yeah.

1154
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Yeah.

1155
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,800
Yeah.

1156
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,440
But that, uh, oh, that's weird.

1157
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,440
Yeah.

1158
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,440
Mm hmm.

1159
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,560
I feel like there's kind of a lot of episodes, a surprising number that just sort of end.

1160
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:28,760
Like it's just like, and they're in the hospital and this is kind of a downer or neutral.

1161
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Like there isn't a big wrap up sort of feeling to them.

1162
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,600
So yes.

1163
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,600
Right.

1164
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,200
Or even like, I like the ones that end.

1165
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,480
And then you see like a little like hint that things are not wrapped up.

1166
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,480
Do you know what I mean?

1167
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,800
I can't think of an example, but like, um, you know, like, ooh, but this person is still

1168
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,040
a lot, you know, like some sort of like a squeeze, squeeze ends that way where he's in prison,

1169
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,040
but he's like, he's building this nest again.

1170
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,040
He's got that little slot.

1171
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,840
And then he's going to squeeze himself out through.

1172
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,840
Yeah.

1173
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,840
Yes.

1174
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,840
Exactly.

1175
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,160
And that, that I like, but yeah, I feel like there are these that just kind of are like,

1176
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,760
well, all right.

1177
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:13,000
And we're not really given any sort of closure even, you know, like a, yeah.

1178
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,320
So that, that was it.

1179
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,720
It was, you know, kind of for me, it was fine.

1180
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:19,720
Yeah.

1181
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:20,720
Make a whole lot of sense.

1182
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:25,800
There was some science that made sense, I guess.

1183
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,160
And a lot that didn't.

1184
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,160
Yeah.

1185
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,160
So.

1186
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,160
Fair enough.

1187
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,160
Yeah.

1188
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,800
And I know humbug is the one with like, I don't know what the right word is because

1189
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,360
surely it's not this, but I swear it's like the freak show.

1190
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,560
Like there's like a circus people, like a traveling circus with people.

1191
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,360
You're not thinking of home.

1192
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,360
No.

1193
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,360
Oh, okay.

1194
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:54,000
Home is like, there's a creepy family of incestuous monster people.

1195
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000
This is different.

1196
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:04,120
This is, this is a like, sort of sideshow attraction, theater circus traveler performers.

1197
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Yeah.

1198
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Sort of thing.

1199
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Well, I'm glad you're watching that because that stuff really bothers me.

1200
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Okay.

1201
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,120
I read a, I read a book.

1202
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,120
What was that?

1203
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,120
I can't even name a thing.

1204
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,920
It wasn't Geek Love by, was it Catherine Dunn?

1205
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,920
No.

1206
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:18,920
Was it?

1207
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Okay.

1208
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,920
I don't know what that is.

1209
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,320
I tried to read it twice and I've had to stop both times.

1210
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,320
It's far too disturbing.

1211
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,600
There's people who like love that book and I gave it a shot twice and was like, nope.

1212
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,600
Oh, horrifying.

1213
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Yeah.

1214
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Huh.

1215
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,600
I won't even get into it.

1216
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,600
I'm not even going to get into it.

1217
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,600
Yeah.

1218
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Don't know.

1219
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:41,600
The book I read was more like historical fiction and it was like kind of interesting and I,

1220
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,320
I like, I think I like stuff from the author, but I was, I don't know.

1221
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,320
It was too much.

1222
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,320
Yeah.

1223
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,320
Actually it was kind of good now that I think about it, but never mind.

1224
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,600
I can't even think the name of it.

1225
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:59,560
This one, what I recall is that people say it's the start of the X-Files having a little

1226
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080
bit of like humor and self-awareness in some episodes.

1227
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Oh.

1228
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,120
And that this is sort of seen as the first one of those.

1229
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,920
So we'll see with that in mind.

1230
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,920
Yeah.

1231
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,920
Okay.

1232
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,920
Cool.

1233
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,920
Yeah.

1234
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,920
And then after that is the Kalu Sari.

1235
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,920
Yeah.

1236
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,920
Scary stuff.

1237
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:17,920
I know it's, yeah.

1238
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,920
And I can't remember.

1239
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:19,920
I don't know if I've seen.

1240
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:20,920
So.

1241
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,920
Exorcism stuff.

1242
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,920
I can't remember.

1243
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,440
I have like vague feelings of remembering.

1244
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:31,040
Do you remember there's like an Eastern European woman and she has a son and there's like a

1245
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,920
balloon and there's an exorcism?

1246
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,920
Vaguely.

1247
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,920
Okay.

1248
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,920
Vaguely.

1249
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,920
I think maybe I saw it once.

1250
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,920
Okay.

1251
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaking of Eastern European women and I say this as a relatively half Eastern European

1252
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,440
woman.

1253
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Yeah.

1254
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,200
I think when William, our oldest, when he was a baby, like a baby, baby, baby, he, I'm

1255
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,200
sorry.

1256
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,200
I'm a baby, baby, baby.

1257
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,200
Yeah.

1258
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,200
Yeah.

1259
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,560
And there's that, that pit bull.

1260
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,560
What is it?

1261
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Oh, fire or something.

1262
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,160
I'm not a pit bull expert.

1263
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,760
Fireball, he says.

1264
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,040
I don't know.

1265
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,000
But he goes baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby.

1266
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,000
You're on fire.

1267
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,320
Oh, I don't know that.

1268
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,520
And Zach used to say all those babies and then go, you're a baby.

1269
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,520
To the babies.

1270
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,920
To ours.

1271
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,720
But that's not what I was going to say.

1272
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:33,120
But he had, he was John-des when he was born and so we had to take him for a bunch.

1273
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,120
He was a little glow worm.

1274
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,120
Yeah.

1275
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,120
A special outfit.

1276
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,120
Yeah.

1277
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,120
Yeah.

1278
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,320
And so we'd have to take him for like pretty, like daily I think for a while or every other

1279
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,680
day blood draws to check his belly room and levels.

1280
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:52,200
And there was a woman one time who came in with this very heavy Eastern European accent

1281
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520
and went, I am here to take your baby's blood.

1282
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,720
Back in the back and I rubbed like, oh God.

1283
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,800
We kept joking that then like someone else would come in and be like, oh, I'm here for

1284
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,800
the blood draw.

1285
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,800
We'd be like, no.

1286
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,800
The vampires.

1287
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,800
That's awesome.

1288
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,800
Oh my God.

1289
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,800
Yeah.

1290
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,800
Side question.

1291
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,800
For a male roller derby.

1292
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,880
Side question for a male roller derby player.

1293
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,320
What would you think of Billy Rubin as a derby name?

1294
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,280
I would love it.

1295
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,480
It's kind of awesome.

1296
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,920
It just came to me when you said it.

1297
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,200
I like that a lot.

1298
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,200
Yeah.

1299
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Yeah.

1300
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,200
Great.

1301
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,680
I thought of the thing in my life.

1302
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,960
Oh, time travel bison.

1303
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,840
And then I thought of the thing in my life that I thought would make a good X file.

1304
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:36,840
Oh, awesome.

1305
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:42,120
But first about time traveling bison because it relates to an announcement that you have.

1306
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Oh, actually, I don't know that I should announce it.

1307
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,600
So let's do gotcha.

1308
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,600
Just in case.

1309
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,600
I don't know.

1310
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,600
So let's do that.

1311
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,600
Yeah.

1312
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Okay.

1313
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:58,600
So first about time traveling bison in your paper that I was reading that you were

1314
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,760
at my proposal, your book proposal.

1315
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,760
Yeah.

1316
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,200
You were talking about, let me see if I've got this right.

1317
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,200
Okay.

1318
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:13,520
So, TB, tuberculosis, tuberculosis we thought was introduced into this area in a certain

1319
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
time.

1320
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:24,960
But then we looked for evidence of TB and found that some extremely old bison showed

1321
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,680
signs of it.

1322
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,520
And so we were like, hmm.

1323
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,120
And when I say we, I don't mean me.

1324
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,680
I mean, I don't know, humanity.

1325
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,680
Yeah.

1326
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,400
So it's like, hmm, TB must have been here sooner than we thought because this bison has

1327
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,600
it, these bison.

1328
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,320
But my other theory was no, what if the bison were time travelers because that would explain

1329
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,320
it?

1330
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,400
If the bison went through wormhole or whatever and they time traveled and they came here

1331
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400
and they got TB and then they went home.

1332
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,400
Oh, that'd be so sad.

1333
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,400
Oh, no.

1334
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,240
No, actually, no, so my go back, my go bacterial diseases.

1335
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:09,960
So like tuberculosis and others in the tuberculosis complex, they call it, that can cause similar

1336
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,240
diseases.

1337
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,360
They are relatively common in bovids.

1338
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,880
So what is a bovid?

1339
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,880
What's a bovid?

1340
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Yeah.

1341
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Bovines.

1342
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Oh, yeah.

1343
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,600
So cows and cow related animals.

1344
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Okay.

1345
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,880
Bison being related enough.

1346
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,880
Yeah.

1347
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,440
So it's, it's, it would make sense to find tuberculosis in a bison.

1348
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,440
Okay.

1349
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,040
Now whether, now I feel from later evidence, I feel pretty certain that it was not time

1350
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,520
traveling, but I guess there's not really ever any way to know for sure.

1351
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,160
No, I don't think there is.

1352
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,160
No.

1353
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,240
I mean, I mean, that's not true.

1354
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,400
We could carbon date the bones.

1355
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,720
And that would tell us, well, it would tell us how long it's been there.

1356
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,240
And tell us necessarily when it came from originally.

1357
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:02,640
And to be clear, for whatever reason, what I was imagining was ancient bison goes to

1358
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:08,560
the future, gets TB, then goes back in time to its original time with a TB.

1359
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,480
So then you definitely wouldn't know.

1360
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Yeah.

1361
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,480
Yeah.

1362
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,480
That's true.

1363
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,480
Yeah.

1364
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,640
I have no way of proving that didn't occur.

1365
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Yeah.

1366
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,680
So, so solid theory.

1367
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,680
Thank you.

1368
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Maybe that's something you can explore in your book.

1369
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,560
Maybe.

1370
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,560
Oh, hold on.

1371
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,560
Okay.

1372
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,560
There's bison outside of Fermilab.

1373
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,560
Oh my God.

1374
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,560
You're right.

1375
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,560
The physics research.

1376
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,560
Yes.

1377
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Hunter, you worked out in Illinois.

1378
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Yes.

1379
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,560
That's what it is.

1380
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,560
That's what it is.

1381
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,560
Obviously.

1382
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Yeah.

1383
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,880
They're going to Fermilab.

1384
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,280
They're time traveling somehow.

1385
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,280
And there you go.

1386
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,280
Bing, bing, boom.

1387
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,280
Yeah.

1388
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,280
Okay.

1389
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Yep.

1390
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,120
I think there's like an outlander or time traveler's wife or like, you know, some sort

1391
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:59,560
of like fiction where, you know, we've got time travel, but it's bison.

1392
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,560
Yeah.

1393
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,560
That'd be adorable.

1394
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,400
If you need, you know, ideas for your new novel.

1395
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,400
Well, I mean, I have.

1396
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,400
I would love to read that.

1397
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,520
I'm editing my story that takes place at Fermilab and has time travel in it.

1398
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,520
Oh my God.

1399
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,520
That's right.

1400
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,320
I'm just going to be like, and also there was a bison there.

1401
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,120
Just look in one sentence.

1402
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,720
Just change all the characters to now be bison.

1403
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Like the story is the same.

1404
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,160
I guess I never technically come out and say that my main character isn't a bison.

1405
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,440
So I mean, she lives in an apartment and her mom owns a dress shop.

1406
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,600
Again, I never state this human female owns a dress shop.

1407
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Yeah.

1408
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:40,600
Right.

1409
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,600
Yeah.

1410
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,600
I think it's possible.

1411
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:43,600
I think it's possible.

1412
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,360
I'm going to like, sometimes like writers like for fun will commission artists to draw

1413
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,800
their characters or whatever.

1414
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,720
And I'm going to be like, I need you to draw Vanessa.

1415
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,720
She's she likes vintage clothes.

1416
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,240
She's 17.

1417
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,240
She's into physics.

1418
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
She has black hair and she's a bison.

1419
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,720
And I need you to draw that.

1420
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,200
I mean, bison could have black hair.

1421
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,600
That yeah, that tracks.

1422
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,600
Yeah, it does.

1423
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,600
Yeah.

1424
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:11,600
Yeah.

1425
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,840
I like it.

1426
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,440
What happened in your life recently?

1427
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,200
Well, actually, it was it was not my life.

1428
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:22,640
It was Amanda telling me this that like last year, their car was at a commission for a

1429
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:28,160
while because something some animal chewed through the wires in the car.

1430
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,400
And then it happened again this year.

1431
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,760
So her car is in the shop right now because something keeps chewing through the wires in

1432
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,520
her car and like eating them or whatever.

1433
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,360
Gigantic Texan cockroaches, perhaps.

1434
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,080
I came up with a theory that it's her neighbor.

1435
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,320
Which should be awesome and horrifying.

1436
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,440
I think she's just as good as Rick and just like him like creeping out there in the night

1437
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,200
and going into their car and she went through the wires.

1438
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,960
Yeah, that would be so creepy.

1439
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,960
I know.

1440
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,960
Oh, man.

1441
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Yeah.

1442
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,400
Our dryer started on fire.

1443
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Oh my God.

1444
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,400
I heard.

1445
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,400
Yeah, that's crazy.

1446
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,080
And there's so many times when me and all my arrogance have tried to convince Adam, just

1447
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,080
leave it run while we run errands or go to the gym or whatever.

1448
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,920
It's fine and I'm so glad I don't.

1449
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:18,920
Yeah.

1450
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:19,920
Oh my God.

1451
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,920
So is it okay?

1452
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,560
You're so glad you don't.

1453
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,560
So glad Adam stops you.

1454
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,560
Yes.

1455
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,560
Yes.

1456
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,560
So glad we haven't.

1457
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:28,960
No, it's not okay.

1458
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Oh God.

1459
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,800
I mean, the houses, the people are, the dryer has gone to a better place.

1460
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:35,960
What happened there?

1461
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,960
I don't know.

1462
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,600
I mean, it was old.

1463
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Okay.

1464
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,160
I don't know.

1465
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,160
Man.

1466
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,240
Is there a follow up?

1467
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,320
Just something keeps chewing through her wires.

1468
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,280
Is there a reason why she doesn't think that it's just like an animal that lives nearby?

1469
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,320
I mean, it is an animal.

1470
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,320
For sure.

1471
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,320
Well, right.

1472
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,440
But it might be Rick.

1473
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,440
Rick is an animal.

1474
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,360
No, I mean, she lives in Texas.

1475
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,000
Odds are it is, I don't know.

1476
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,000
I don't know.

1477
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,500
Some sort of Texan squirrel.

1478
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:07,500
I don't know.

1479
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:08,500
Yeah.

1480
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:15,280
I think I've told you somebody I know who was in Alaska for a while and they would have

1481
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:22,280
to do this like she was in the Air Force, I want to say, and they'd have to do Arctic

1482
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,400
survival training because they'd often have to go repair the fiber optics cables that were

1483
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,960
out in the middle of nowhere.

1484
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:37,200
This was in the 90s because polar bears liked the taste of the lining of the wires.

1485
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,040
And so they chew through the wires all the time because they liked the taste of them.

1486
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,360
So it's kind of a normal.

1487
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,360
I know.

1488
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,520
So I think it's possible.

1489
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,520
Maybe it's a polar bear chewing through her stuff.

1490
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,880
And one of those Texas polar bears.

1491
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,880
Yeah.

1492
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,800
So yeah, she's just like, oh yeah, it's probably like a chipmunk or something.

1493
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:54,800
I don't know.

1494
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,800
Yeah.

1495
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,800
But I think it's possible.

1496
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,080
It's her neighbor because I think that was really, really creepy to picture it.

1497
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,480
So it would be really, really creepy.

1498
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Yeah.

1499
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,480
Yes.

1500
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:14,320
I know someone who studied geology in Greenland for her dissertation and was in a helicopter

1501
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,760
flying out of like their site and saw a polar bear down on the ice below.

1502
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,760
Oh, wow.

1503
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,760
That's awesome.

1504
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Oh, wow.

1505
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,760
Yeah.

1506
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,760
Cool.

1507
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,760
Yep.

1508
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,760
Yeah, they're neat.

1509
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,760
Yeah.

1510
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,760
Cool.

1511
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,160
Well, I guess that's it.

1512
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,160
Yeah.

1513
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,160
Yeah.

1514
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:38,880
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1515
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,360
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1516
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,360
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1517
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,400
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1518
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,440
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1519
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,440
Yep.

1520
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,440
All right.

1521
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,440
See you next time.

1522
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,440
Bye.

1523
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:02,440
Bye.