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I'm Helen, and I'm Liz, and we're sisters, scientists, and lifelong X-Files fans.

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And this is We Want to Believe.

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Alright, welcome back.

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Welcome back.

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As we said previously, this episode of the X-Files 3 has a reputation for being one of

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the worst episodes they ever made.

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And was it?

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Yes.

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Oh, no.

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Yes.

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It was real bad.

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Really?

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Yeah, but I can't wait to talk about it.

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Is there any updates or announcements or anything we need to say before we dive into the episode,

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before I give you your quiz slash game?

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Ooh.

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I've been giving people quizzes all day, so it seems only fair.

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Fair.

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Yeah.

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I think so, right?

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You said you have a story, a listener's story, or no?

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Nope.

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Oh, must have dreamt that.

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Yeah.

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I had a creepy dream about aliens.

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You had a creepy dream about an alien?

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Yeah.

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I don't remember.

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I just had a creepy dream.

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Aliens were in it, and then I woke up and went to the bathroom in the middle of the night

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and was afraid of aliens, which never happens to me.

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I'm never afraid of aliens, so that's not one of my things.

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I remember when we were little and we lived closer to corn.

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Oh, yeah.

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After signs came out, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Big time.

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Something was terrifying.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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I remember watching it with friends in high school and them getting mad because one or

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two of them hadn't seen it before, and some of us would start to tense up before scary

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would happen because we knew what was coming.

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So, yeah, I don't think so.

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So, I'm ready to dig into some bad vampire stuff.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, as a vampire aficionado, I have some extra vampire stuff to share.

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Cool.

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The only other thing I was going to say is I got scared last night by something I was

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writing, which is just the stupidest thing.

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I'm not doing like full nano-rymo, but I decided I'm going to write a little bit each day and

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like, like, that's it.

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Like, because nano-rymo to achieve 50,000, oh, if anyone doesn't know that's national

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novel writing month, and the idea is you write 50,000 words in a month, which breaks down

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to just over 1600 words a day, which is a lot.

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That's a lot.

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Especially if it's on average, like, you know, yeah, trying to do 500 words a day, which

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is really doesn't take 15, 20 minutes.

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It's not a big deal.

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But I'm writing something kind of scary.

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Ooh.

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I got scared when I had to get up and go to the bathroom.

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Ooh.

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Man, that's a sign of talent.

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I feel like that's good.

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It's a sign of something.

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We'll say talent.

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Generalized anxiety disorder.

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A little from Colombe, a little from Colombe.

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And I'm realizing I actually did have more to say.

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I am dedicated to the idea of a spooky November because I don't really dig the vibe of November.

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And I like Halloween.

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I like spooky October.

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And so my goal is to start making the spookiness bleed into November.

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Sure.

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How?

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Well, I'm listening to Ghost Story, the podcast that Helen recommended previously.

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Isn't it good?

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Oh my God.

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Have you heard all of it yet?

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Because I haven't heard all of it, but I've heard most of it.

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No, no, I haven't.

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I'm on episode three, I think.

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Have you heard the Dorothy Sayers stuff in episode three?

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The crime fiction writer from the 30s?

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Oh my God.

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Scary?

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What was that?

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It was just insane.

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Just insane.

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Like, yeah, I can't.

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I was like, by myself listening to this, just like, I need to talk to someone about this.

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Oh, man.

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It's too bad because my, well, I mean, too bad is perhaps too strong of a word.

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But when I was commuting all the time, it was nice.

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That's when I would listen to scary stuff because when I'm like in my car, I feel very

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safe and secure.

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But when I'm like at home and the kids are asleep and I'm like cleaning and Zach is playing

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guitar, I like, or embroidering or like, you know, whatever it is I'm doing by myself.

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Broitering seemed like a scary task.

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Not the act of it, but just like, that's the task you'd be doing when a ghost visits

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And so I don't want to listen.

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So yeah, so my time to listen to spooky stuff has been compromised.

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Because then when I'm at work, it like is then also too much.

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So I listened to like the professor is in and inside higher ed and the dream.

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I am.

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I just finished listening to season three of the dream.

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Oh, how'd you get it all right away?

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I think it's done.

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I think it just came out this week.

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Oh, really?

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I think it's finished now.

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I think it's done.

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Like nine episodes.

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Oh, oh, I didn't realize.

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Well, I have one more to listen to that.

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I guess.

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I think it just came out yesterday.

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Um, but those other ones do not sound like my scene.

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I don't want to listen to inside higher ed.

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I was listening to some travel agent podcasts and I still do sometimes, but often I'm just

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like, no, I can't have more things that I'm supposed to think about for money.

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I don't know.

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No, the difference I think is that I listened to episodes.

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That are about like why everyone is quitting academia and, um, you know, I don't know,

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kind of like more social topics.

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Got it.

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Then like, out and give a professor or something.

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They have those, but I'm, I'm, yeah, those don't interest me quite as much.

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Um, so spooky November though.

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So I am listening to that ghost story podcast.

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Cool.

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I'm writing something spooky.

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And then I just wanted there to be a third thing, but I don't know what it is yet.

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I'll, I'll work on that.

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Maybe I'll have one next week.

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So yeah, uh, that's, that's what's new with me.

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And I encourage anyone else who feels kind of blah about November's vibe, be like, make

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it, I mean, look, time change happens, more darkness.

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It just makes me want to drink hot chocolate and embroider.

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I was just saying, I've left the part of the season where I drink apple cider and I'm

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now moving into hot chocolate mode.

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With the time change comes the hot chocolate.

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I think those are my updates.

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Let's go ahead and we're going to do a quiz.

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I'm excited.

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I'm ready.

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Um, have you seen basic instinct?

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Is it open?

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That's just a question.

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No, but you know what?

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I want to, because I just read an article right before Halloween.

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I was, um, looking at some sort of, I think it was probably a rink or article about like

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scary movies or something.

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It's with Harrison Ford, right?

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And Michelle Pfeiffer.

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No, no, neither of those people.

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Who is the, what?

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Um, Michael Douglas and Sharon Stone.

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Yes.

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I like the vibes and the era.

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Like they're not wrong.

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So I have not, but I want to hit it.

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I didn't see it till I was an adult and it, it is.

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It is batshit and saying like it is wild.

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Like cool.

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I mean, it's just, it's so it's like kind of the first of those like early 90s erotic

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thrillers and, um, and probably also the most famous, you know, but so I'm fairly, I've

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seen it multiple times.

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I know it pretty well.

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And I watched this episode of the act of the devil.

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I mean, I didn't know that.

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I didn't know that I was a little bit of a villain.

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And I watched this episode of the X-Files 3,

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and I thought that is kind of the vibe they're

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kind of sort of going with here.

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Is that early 90s?

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Well, it is early 90s.

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Erotic thriller, which is not a vibe the X-Files usually does.

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No.

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Maybe that's because they're real bad at it.

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I don't know.

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So I'm going to read you some statements.

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And your question will be, is this true about basic instinct?

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The episode 3, both or neither?

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Ooh, OK.

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I'm ready.

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OK.

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We'll start with something very straightforward and not

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that exciting.

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Takes place in California.

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Both.

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Yes.

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That is correct.

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Three takes place in LA.

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And basic instinct takes place in San Francisco.

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In this piece of fiction, a man with a sort of tortured

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upsetting event in his past who works in law enforcement

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suspects a woman of murder but sleeps with her anyway

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and then falls for her and tries to protect her.

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Ooh, I can't.

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I was just reading a synopsis of basic instinct, like I said.

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But clearly, I got the two main characters awfully wrong.

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So I don't know that I retained much.

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I'm going to say both.

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That is correct.

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Both.

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Yes.

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The female lead stabs someone.

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Ooh, both.

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That is correct.

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It has a fun, exciting twist ending.

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Basic instinct.

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Very good.

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Definitely not three.

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Nothing's more exciting about three.

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Oh, no.

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The male lead mentions leprechauns.

275
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Three.

276
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Neither.

277
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I just wanted to follow.

278
00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,120
It's neither.

279
00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,360
I was going to say, how would you have gone, like,

280
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you rewatched Basic and Saint with like a leprechaun shelter?

281
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Leprechauns.

282
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Yeah.

283
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So I guess I should say definitely not three.

284
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I think I should say three.

285
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I think I should say three.

286
00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,320
I think I should say three.

287
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I think I should say three.

288
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I think I should say three.

289
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I think I should say three.

290
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Definitely not three.

291
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And I don't think it happens in Basic and Saint,

292
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but please let me know if I'm wrong, listeners.

293
00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:33,560
Yeah.

294
00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:37,560
I forgot the pivotal leprechaun scene.

295
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Opens with a sex scene between an older man and a younger woman

296
00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,160
whose face we don't see and the man gets murdered.

297
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Both?

298
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During that.

299
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Both.

300
00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,160
Yes.

301
00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,160
Ooh.

302
00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,160
Yes.

303
00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,160
Is Basic and Saint the one with the ice pick?

304
00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,160
Is there an ice pick?

305
00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,160
Yes.

306
00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,160
Oh, that's why I was reading about it.

307
00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,160
OK.

308
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And finally, vampires.

309
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Three.

310
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Yes.

311
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Very good.

312
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,160
Very good.

313
00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:09,160
You got all of them right except for the leprechaun question, which is fine.

314
00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,160
Yeah.

315
00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,520
So I really got this vibe like that's what it was aiming for.

316
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And it sucks.

317
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Because Basic Instinct is it's kind of trashy, but in an incredibly compelling way.

318
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OK.

319
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This is trashy in like a really irritating way.

320
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Like, OK.

321
00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,960
So again, we open with an older man.

322
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He's drinking a glass of red wine and he's looking out at the hills and he's talking

323
00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,240
about the fires in Malibu Canyon, which I guess there were some really bad fires in

324
00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,000
Malibu in 1993, which is the year before this would have been filmed, but I guess still

325
00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,120
possible.

326
00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,600
And and there's a woman inside and he's kind of talking to her and being like, oh, I can

327
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,080
almost see the fires from here and it's very moody and whatever.

328
00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,560
And he's he's older and you can tell she's younger, but you can't see her face that well.

329
00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,040
She's a brunette.

330
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,440
And and at first I was like, oh, he's hired a prostitute.

331
00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,400
But then he says, I don't usually do this.

332
00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,160
But when I met you at that corporate party or something like that, I'm like, oh, so she's

333
00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,160
like his co-worker.

334
00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,280
I don't know.

335
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,360
So they start making out in a hot tub and see there's a dude inside.

336
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,960
I'm going to call that guy the father for reasons that will be revealed later.

337
00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,960
I don't know if he's someone's father.

338
00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,520
I don't actually know the reason that's going to be revealed.

339
00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,520
It's not.

340
00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,520
Okay.

341
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There is no fun to extending.

342
00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,960
So but it's I need to call him by some name and for a little bit later, I'm going to call

343
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,960
him the father.

344
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,960
Okay.

345
00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,120
He's like, imagine how my hair looks on its worst day.

346
00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,800
Like if I'd been sleeping and then I just woke up and went somewhere like long brown

347
00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,080
hair that's like real ratty and messy.

348
00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,400
And he's, I don't know, middle age and kind of has a crazy look in his eyes and he's

349
00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,400
getting out of syringe.

350
00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:03,120
Oh, and then the woman making out with the older guy in the hot tub bites him and the

351
00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,320
father rushes in, grabs him and they kill the guy.

352
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,320
Okay.

353
00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,960
And so I just want to point out which one of us has the phobia of blood and needles?

354
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,960
Me.

355
00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,440
Which one of us has to put the episode blood and this episode?

356
00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,440
Me.

357
00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,440
Oh, no.

358
00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,440
Was there a lot of like so much?

359
00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,440
Oh, no, really?

360
00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,800
I thought it would just be like vampiric.

361
00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,800
Me too.

362
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,360
And I was just like, are you kidding me?

363
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,040
Why am I, no, no more needles.

364
00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,040
It's okay.

365
00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,680
I didn't, I mean, you know, I cannot look and I can't really think there's any X file.

366
00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:41,160
I don't think there's any X files all about vomiting.

367
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,160
Yeah, I don't think so.

368
00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,520
No, although I'm sure there's episodes that contain vomit.

369
00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,520
Yeah.

370
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,840
Not so much like a trend that they're gonna like zoom in on over and over.

371
00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,360
I hope not.

372
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,360
So there's okay.

373
00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,360
All right.

374
00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,080
Yeah, I know nothing about this episode.

375
00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,040
And I have a feeling you're going to have questions for me that I do not have answers

376
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,040
for.

377
00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,040
Okay.

378
00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,040
Okay.

379
00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,040
So, okay.

380
00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:10,240
Theme song happens and then a little bit of a slightly compelling scene.

381
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,520
Mulders in the X files office and as you told me, right in the last episode, the X

382
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,840
files are being opened once again.

383
00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,840
Right.

384
00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,200
So Mulders taking down the plastic sheeting and you can kind of see, you know, around

385
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:26,400
the office, there's like a trashy calendar with women posing with enormous power tools

386
00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200
and he's changing it from May to November.

387
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,400
And so it's got to be like November 94 now.

388
00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,720
We get, and then you see that he's got like an X file about Scully and it has some stuff

389
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,200
in it and it's got her badge and he's very sad and he takes her cross necklace out and

390
00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,360
he puts it on.

391
00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,080
Oh, okay.

392
00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,600
And then the phone rings.

393
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,600
New scene.

394
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600
Don't know.

395
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,280
Okay.

396
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:58,640
And then Mulder is now at a crime scene in LA and it's the crime scene of the old guy's

397
00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,200
nice house with the hot tub and all that.

398
00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,200
Right.

399
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,720
And LAPD is there and they're a little hostile and they're like, nobody called the bureau.

400
00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,600
And I don't think I delivered that line that well.

401
00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,120
I said, I'm going to try that again.

402
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,240
I don't think I have it.

403
00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,720
How would you say that?

404
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,720
I don't know.

405
00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:16,760
No one called the bureau though.

406
00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,480
So he's like, okay.

407
00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,440
And so in Mulder's like, well, they should have.

408
00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,440
Okay.

409
00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,280
So I assume at this point we're going to find out who that phone call was from when I'm

410
00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,000
thinking maybe it's X because I haven't gotten an episode with X in it yet.

411
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000
Right.

412
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,720
They never address it.

413
00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,720
No idea.

414
00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,720
No, no idea.

415
00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,160
So no one called the bureau and there's no follow up to that or how Mulder found the

416
00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,160
case.

417
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,160
Nope.

418
00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,160
Okay.

419
00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,160
All right.

420
00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,160
He's there.

421
00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,880
He's looking very moody and it's like, it's clear he's feeling really, really upset about

422
00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,240
Scully being abducted.

423
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,200
Like you can see how that's haunting him and everything.

424
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,960
Now Mulder does say, so maybe, maybe this is kind of an answer.

425
00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,480
He's like, oh, there's six people dead in similar ways in two other states and Mulder's

426
00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,600
been waiting for them to strike again.

427
00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,640
So maybe the phone ringing was incidental and Mulder just heard about this.

428
00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,640
Okay.

429
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,640
I don't know.

430
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,680
It wasn't the greatest writing.

431
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,920
So they kind of look around the house and all the mirrors are shattered and written in

432
00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,840
blood is John 52 54.

433
00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440
And so I'm like, right?

434
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,400
One of them, what'd you say?

435
00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,400
Bible.

436
00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,720
Bible.

437
00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,880
And so I was, you know, I watched this a couple of days ago and then I was kind of reviewing

438
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,880
things today and I'm like, what exactly was it?

439
00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,200
Cause somebody either Mulder or somebody else kind of quotes it and it's something about,

440
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,760
oh, if you drink of my blood, you will be have everlasting life or something like that.

441
00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,520
But I Googled it to get it exactly right.

442
00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,760
And the first thing that comes up when you search John 52 54 is a summary of this episode,

443
00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,320
which I thought was odd.

444
00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:01,040
That's because there is no John 52 54.

445
00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,280
That quote is actually John 6 54.

446
00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,600
John 52 54 does not exist.

447
00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,080
It is not a Bible thing.

448
00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,360
They couldn't have done some.

449
00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:16,560
That seems like a pretty easy one to like, I mean, they got out, right?

450
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,560
Right?

451
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,560
Like what?

452
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,520
I mean, it's not like they're going to be like, it's not like God is going to be like,

453
00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,400
Hey, copyright, you can't, you know, you have to make it a fake Bible verse.

454
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,240
Like when they have, you know, a restaurant that's clearly meant to be McDonald's, but

455
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,080
isn't or a social media that's meant to look like Facebook or something.

456
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,080
Yeah.

457
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,240
Oh, that is so weird.

458
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,240
Weird.

459
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:47,200
So, so yeah, we're, we're getting a vibe here that there's something kind of biblical

460
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,120
ish going on maybe.

461
00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:57,000
And Mulder is saying how like in Omaha and in one other city, I'll have, I'll be reminded

462
00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,800
later.

463
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,880
They've killed three people in each city and Mulder finds a needle in the poll filter,

464
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,000
like a like a syringe.

465
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,240
And then the LAPD guys being kind of nice and wants to help and Mulder's just like,

466
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,920
I work alone and is very hostile and it's, it's clearly upset about Scully.

467
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,080
And then he says, I only need one thing from you.

468
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,960
Would you like to guess what he needs from them?

469
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,400
It is a actual object.

470
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,760
It is a physical thing.

471
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,720
A guy's body?

472
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:25,720
No.

473
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,720
Uh, no, that's all I got.

474
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,200
A phone book.

475
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,560
I know it's the 90s.

476
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,720
I know he can't just Google this stuff.

477
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,960
But again, it just seems like, so he just met up with them and everything and all he

478
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,360
needs is a phone book.

479
00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:46,360
Like, yeah.

480
00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:47,360
Okay.

481
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:52,160
And because, because here's the thing, it's not like he's looking up something that he

482
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,000
just gained this info with the crime scene.

483
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,680
What he's doing is he's calling all the blood banks in LA.

484
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,680
Okay.

485
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:05,040
Because he expects that whoever is doing this thinks they're a vampire and probably they'd

486
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,520
work at a blood bank.

487
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,520
I guess.

488
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,520
Huh.

489
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,520
Okay.

490
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,800
And, and so he's like, oh, I'm from HR.

491
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,680
I have a question about your new hires, W4.

492
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,320
We need some more info.

493
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,880
And kind of like leading them into like finding out who has hired someone recently.

494
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,400
And they're like, oh, you must mean John the Night Watchman.

495
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960
Ha, that must be him.

496
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:34,320
So he sneaks in at night to the rather well-secured giant blood bank facility.

497
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,680
Um, and indeed finds a dude.

498
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,960
He's drinking blood from a plastic pouch.

499
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,480
Like it's a caprice sun.

500
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,480
Oh God, gross.

501
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:50,800
That is just like exactly what it was like was like a clear caprice sun full of blood.

502
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,800
Oh, gross.

503
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800
I'm so nasty.

504
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,800
So, so gross.

505
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,800
Oh, geez.

506
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,360
It was somewhere around here that I'm like, wait, this is 1994.

507
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,000
What are they not mentioned?

508
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,000
Right.

509
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,720
Yeah, I'm like, nothing about the AIDS crisis?

510
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,720
Yeah.

511
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,680
Um, and they do mention it in a little bit, but not as much as I would think.

512
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,680
Yeah.

513
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,560
So, so, you know, Mulder catches a guy, puts him in police custody and he's screaming for

514
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,920
the lights to be turned off.

515
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,400
Oh, you're killing me.

516
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,400
You're killing me.

517
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,280
And it's, you might think, oh, this must be the guy Liz described as the father.

518
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,280
Right.

519
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:32,680
It is the same sort of look with like longish brown hair, like, and, you know, and then

520
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,680
vaguely goth ish.

521
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,680
I'm at ease.

522
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,680
Younger, he's maybe in like his twenties.

523
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,840
Um, longish brown hair, vaguely goth.

524
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,640
Are these like Vlad Tepes wannabes?

525
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,000
Like is that the long hair?

526
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000
Is that where we're going?

527
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,480
Yeah, I've never thought about it like that, but Vlad Tepes is going to get brought up

528
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,480
in a way and a little bit.

529
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,480
Oh, okay.

530
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,480
Yeah.

531
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,480
All right.

532
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,480
Interesting.

533
00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:02,520
So the police are very dismissive and I want to be like, well, LAPD early nineties.

534
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,640
I feel like ignoring this guy's cries for turning off the lights.

535
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560
I feel like that's the least of things, bad things they do.

536
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,560
Right.

537
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,560
Yeah.

538
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,560
Like years after the king.

539
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,640
So, um, how many after that was 91, right?

540
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,640
Yeah.

541
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,640
Like three years.

542
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,920
Um, and yeah, again, I just kept like feeling like, is there going to be any sort of reference

543
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,640
to LAPD in the nineties?

544
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,640
I don't know.

545
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,400
Um, so Malder though turns on like a red light or like a light with like a red filter

546
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,400
on it.

547
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,160
And now the guy can relax and now he trusts Malder and he's like, oh, you know what we

548
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,320
are.

549
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,920
The episode never actually uses the word vampire.

550
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,920
That's clearly a choice.

551
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,320
Oh, I don't know why they make it though.

552
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,320
Why they make that choice.

553
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,320
I don't know.

554
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,400
As I say about Archer, why you do this?

555
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,400
Why so stupid?

556
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:58,960
Um, like, like as if, I mean, yeah, I don't know, but they never use the word vampire,

557
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,560
but it's clearly there.

558
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,720
Okay.

559
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:07,200
And so, um, at this point, this guy, his name is John.

560
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,760
He says, I don't know, I propose nothing.

561
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760
He is the father.

562
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,280
I am the son and she is the unholy spirit.

563
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,200
Uh, so that's why I'm calling that one dude the father.

564
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:25,400
But because I know it, um, and also I just feel so unamused by John's whole shtick.

565
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,680
Like I don't know, people who take themselves very seriously and goth.

566
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,680
I'm not into.

567
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,960
I'm not into people taking themselves seriously anyhow, but he seems like the kind of guy

568
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:42,280
that would like have some sort of snake or lizard in his apartment and think that was

569
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,280
cool.

570
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Yeah, absolutely.

571
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,280
That is the vibe.

572
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,280
Absolutely.

573
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,360
He's like, he's like a snake apartment man.

574
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:49,360
Yeah.

575
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:50,360
Yeah.

576
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:56,240
Um, and to be clear to any of our listeners who are gothish, that's cool.

577
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:02,920
It's more the, uh, the, I take myself so seriously and I say important, pretentious things that

578
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,920
sound deep.

579
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,920
Right.

580
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,420
And I also love snakes.

581
00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:11,200
Um, but, uh, yeah, it's that certain.

582
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,880
Did we see some guys apartment?

583
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,360
Look who had a snake?

584
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:22,440
The sort of person that would have like swords on his walls and black lights or lava.

585
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Yeah.

586
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,440
Yeah.

587
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,440
You're absolutely right.

588
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,880
And I feel like, I don't know, did I date him?

589
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,640
I don't think so.

590
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,640
No, not exactly.

591
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,040
No, but I mean like, or hang out with like, it just sounds like somebody I would have

592
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,320
ended up in their apartment in my early twenties or late teens and been like, God, this guy

593
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,320
sucks.

594
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,320
Yeah.

595
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,320
Anything.

596
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,320
Yeah.

597
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Like, yeah.

598
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,320
So that's John.

599
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,320
I think you've basically got his number.

600
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,360
Um, and so, um, she is the unholy spirit.

601
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:56,840
Um, and so he openly admits that he murdered this dude and he's like, well, when a snake

602
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,000
eats a fly, it's not murder.

603
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:06,280
And Mulder says frogs eat flies and it, I think it was meant to be funny and I liked

604
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,280
that.

605
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,760
There was one other line that I really liked.

606
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,280
Um, but it was, yeah, it was bizarre.

607
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,480
Um, but yeah, you'd think the man clearly owns a snake and yet he doesn't know that.

608
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,480
Yeah.

609
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,600
I mean, for real, you should know that if he's a snake owner.

610
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,600
Yeah.

611
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,200
Um, so he's very much like, you know, oh, I'm going to live forever.

612
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,760
Um, you know, he's saying some things that don't make sense.

613
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200
He's like, I got to live forever when I'm killing people.

614
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,920
I see the horror in their eyes as they realize there's no afterlife.

615
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:41,000
And I would suggest that maybe you see horror in their eyes because they're being murdered.

616
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Um, yeah.

617
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,720
That sounds like a reason.

618
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,040
That's brought up.

619
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,640
But okay, so his whole deal is there's no afterlife.

620
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,040
What's the deal with all the Bible ish references then?

621
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Huh?

622
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040
I'm asking you.

623
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040
I don't know.

624
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Oh.

625
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:04,280
Um, so Mulder can clearly see this guy in a mirror.

626
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,160
He's got a little mirror thing, but the guy's like, you can't, you can't see me.

627
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:15,120
And it doesn't seem like Mulder actually thinks the guy is a vampire, but he's humoring him

628
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,120
like even more.

629
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,120
Okay.

630
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,120
I don't believe.

631
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:21,600
Um, and he's trying to get him to reveal the names of these other two killers.

632
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Okay.

633
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,600
The guy won't do it.

634
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,760
Some Mulder's like, the guy's in a cell where there's some like small windows with like

635
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,400
bars and he's like, look, the sun's going to come through there soon.

636
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,640
I'm going to leave the detectives with some tinfoil and they can cover it up if you tell

637
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,640
us the names.

638
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Otherwise the sun's going to get you.

639
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,520
You know, I know what he says something like, you know, I know what you are and I know how

640
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,040
to kill you or something like that.

641
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,520
No, that's not quite the line.

642
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,520
I don't know.

643
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,440
But yeah, he's like, if he wants to talk, cover the windows.

644
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,000
So it's like a threat and Mulder's like, he's delusional.

645
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,960
I'm just trying to humor him.

646
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,280
And uh, and the cops are like, okay, go to a hotel and get some sleep.

647
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,780
Yeah.

648
00:26:02,780 --> 00:26:04,440
And oh, what is happening?

649
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,280
I just, uh, oh, what have I done?

650
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,640
Oh, you weren't, I wasn't talking to you, Google.

651
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,520
My phone is trying to find me hotels.

652
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:23,120
I have a coworker friend named Gokul, you know, sometimes when he comes in my office,

653
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,200
I say, Hey, Gokul.

654
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,120
And then my phone is like, yes.

655
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:36,040
So so the cop tells Mulder to go get some sleep and Mulder says, I don't have a hotel.

656
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:43,480
I don't sleep anymore, which I get that they're trying to show that he is being.

657
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,360
Self-destructive because of Scully being gone.

658
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:47,360
Yeah.

659
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,240
And I also feel like, haven't we seen what happens when you don't sleep?

660
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,360
In that other episode, it's very bad.

661
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:57,760
Um, like no hotel, just a chillin.

662
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,760
Yeah.

663
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,760
Yeah.

664
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,320
And also like, I don't know, that's so unnecessarily dramatic.

665
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,240
I feel like Mulder is not that sort of person.

666
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,600
Like not that like he wouldn't be not getting sleep, but it's just, I don't know.

667
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Yeah.

668
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,880
Everyone in this episode is being their like best dramatic 14 year old, I think.

669
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,880
Yeah.

670
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,120
Um, then to my surprise, the sun burns that man alive.

671
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,600
Oh, no kidding.

672
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Yeah.

673
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Oh, okay.

674
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,600
That was neat.

675
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,600
Um, I was not expecting that.

676
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
I was not either.

677
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:41,520
I thought they're going to show him like maybe his finger gets a little red and there's like

678
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,880
a plausible deniability or something and he decides to talk, but no, he's burned alive.

679
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,400
And so, um, so the doctor and Mulder are like looking at him and his body is super gross

680
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280
and red and horrible blisters.

681
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:04,360
And the doctor says it could be congenital, erythropoetic, proto porphyria.

682
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:05,360
Okay.

683
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:13,200
And porphyria is referenced in, you know, one of my, one of both of ours absolute favorite

684
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,360
X files episodes, bad blood.

685
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,840
Oh, oh, is that I didn't remember that.

686
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,920
It's this line where Scully is listing off all the things it could be instead of vampires.

687
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,920
And she mentioned.

688
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,920
Yeah.

689
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Um, I just feel like bad blood is the vampire episode we deserve after having had to watch

690
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,520
three.

691
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,520
Yeah.

692
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:42,400
It's too bad because like vampires can be so great, you know, absolutely.

693
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:48,920
I mean, the amount of vampire based fiction that I have read and very much enjoyed.

694
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,040
I mean, many, many, many books on my Kindle.

695
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,240
Uh, but yeah.

696
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Yeah.

697
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Yeah.

698
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,240
Not always.

699
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Yeah.

700
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,240
No.

701
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,360
So, uh, so I'm going to do a little bit of science and a little bit of background talk

702
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,600
here because I was looking up porphyria, trying to find out how to spell it.

703
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,120
And um, and, and either mother that I think the doctor is like, look, people with it's

704
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,120
a porphyria.

705
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,120
You have photosynth sensitivity.

706
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,640
Um, and they're like, yeah, you get small second degree burns.

707
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,040
You don't get fourth degree burns that kill you.

708
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Right.

709
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,040
They don't get set on fire.

710
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Right.

711
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Yeah.

712
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040
And it can cause a hema deficiency.

713
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,040
Okay.

714
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,360
Do you know what is or he or something?

715
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,360
H M E.

716
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,360
He.

717
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Yeah.

718
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,480
I know it's related to like, oh shoot, you know, that word that starts with him.

719
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,480
I can't think of it now.

720
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,480
Hemoglobin.

721
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Oh, right.

722
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Yeah.

723
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,480
Yeah.

724
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,720
He is like the, the active part of hemoglobin.

725
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,960
Hemoglobin is the whole protein complex scheme is, um, the part where the binding of oxygen

726
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,960
actually occurs.

727
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,960
And it's in blood?

728
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Yeah.

729
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,960
Yep.

730
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,960
Red blood cells.

731
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Okay.

732
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:03,720
And erythro that refers to red blood cells.

733
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,840
And what about poetic because I checked this, it is actually, yeah, that's hard.

734
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,440
And I was like, surely not.

735
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Yeah.

736
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:19,440
It's, um, uh, erythro, I think it said more like, uh, poetic, like, yeah, it is spelled

737
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,040
with an I in there and I mean, I was writing fast.

738
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,040
So, yeah, yeah.

739
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Erythropoietic or erythropoises.

740
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:33,440
So erythropoietin is a hormone that stimulates red blood cell development.

741
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400
So like erythrocytes are red blood cells.

742
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,800
Erythropoietin is what, uh, tells our body to make them.

743
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Okay.

744
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,800
Okay.

745
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,800
So hormone.

746
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Very good.

747
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Um, yeah, real words.

748
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Um, so the doctor also says, and yeah, the heme deficiency can be helped with small injections

749
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,640
of blood.

750
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840
And I was like, no.

751
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Oh, and indeed no.

752
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Um, yeah, it does sound like, so I looked it up and it said like the treatments are like,

753
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,400
avoid the sun, don't drink and get injections of heme.

754
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Right.

755
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,400
Yeah.

756
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,880
And they just kind of made that jump, but the guy can, you know, it may sound like,

757
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,920
you know, like you're just getting somebody else's blood like as an injection.

758
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,920
I don't know.

759
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Well, I mean, I mean, it's not that difference than a blood transfusion.

760
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,800
So why is, why does that not weird me out?

761
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:38,560
The difference is that there's, as far as I'm aware, no reason to inject small amounts

762
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,560
of blood.

763
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,560
And if you're injecting heme, you're injecting the component that the red blood cells need,

764
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,680
if you're getting whole blood, then you're supplementing what they have because they

765
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,080
have some sort of deficiency.

766
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:58,040
Um, but there would never be any reason to inject small amounts of whole blood.

767
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,040
Okay.

768
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,040
Yeah.

769
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,040
Yeah.

770
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,240
That's not a thing is, as far as I am aware.

771
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Cool.

772
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,240
Good.

773
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Yeah.

774
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
So I think that's why I'm here.

775
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,120
I'm here for a different type of porphyria involves that you have to eat a lot of carbs

776
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,120
and a high calorie diet.

777
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,800
And I was like, that wouldn't be the worst news in the world.

778
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,120
I mean, no, I don't want, I meant, if I were to have that, I'd be like, well, that is a

779
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,120
treatment I can get behind.

780
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,120
Right.

781
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,760
One of the treatments I saw for this though did say there, there can be therapeutic blood

782
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,400
and the iron in the liver I was on the Cleveland clinic.org or whatever.

783
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,760
Like it seemed like a real site, but it sounded like the middle ages.

784
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Interesting.

785
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Yeah.

786
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,240
I don't know anything about that.

787
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:55,080
I do want to say though, um, porphyria is that what the children are or the girl is

788
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,440
theoretically supposed to have in the movie, the others?

789
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Oh, I bet she is.

790
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Yeah.

791
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Yeah.

792
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,440
Oh, I thought about that.

793
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Yeah.

794
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,600
It is more common in children, I read.

795
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,240
So interesting.

796
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,480
No.

797
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Um, so, uh, Mulder or maybe the, no, the doctor says, porphyria is what led to the vampire

798
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,800
myths in Asia in the middle ages.

799
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Um, that's possible.

800
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Yeah.

801
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,840
I mean, the thing is it's extremely uncommon.

802
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:32,640
So it's hard to imagine that that would create any sort of widespread myth.

803
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,520
It's more or more likely that tuberculosis contributed to it.

804
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520
Um,

805
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,520
What about this?

806
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Because I have some vampire, so I spoke to a historian who studied vampires.

807
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Um,

808
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,040
Doc, it is my husband.

809
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Oh, what did you say?

810
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,480
I said Jacques.

811
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Oh, God.

812
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,480
No, like a real one.

813
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,480
Um,

814
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,640
Jacques is our vampire man in Paris that is crazy.

815
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Um, he's not a vampire man anymore.

816
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,880
He's been, he's our former vampire man.

817
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,880
Yeah.

818
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Um, yeah.

819
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:14,160
I don't recommend having museums in your apartment as a, as a speaking statement.

820
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,280
I think people are making.

821
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,360
Yeah.

822
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Or like, I don't know.

823
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,440
I feel like maybe we'll save the stories about Jacques for some sort of bonus episode.

824
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,440
Yeah.

825
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Oh, that's a good idea.

826
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,920
They are numerous.

827
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,920
Yeah.

828
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,360
So, um, yeah.

829
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,680
But tuberculosis, um, yeah, there's some thought because it would cause, um, bloody

830
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,680
sputum.

831
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,240
And so people would end up with blood around their mouths.

832
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:52,000
It also causes, um, rapid weight loss and night sweats and, um, are vampires known to

833
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,920
be sweaty at night?

834
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
No, I was just listening to work.

835
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:03,840
I started reading your thing and it was really good, but I have to read more of it.

836
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,400
I've only read like three pages.

837
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Oh, okay.

838
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Thank you.

839
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,400
Back to the podcast.

840
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Um, I, I studied tuberculosis for those who aren't aware.

841
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Um, so, uh, oh, so it can cause bloody sputum so it can make like, um, you have blood around

842
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,680
your lips.

843
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Um, but a lot of times, uh, if there was a, an outbreak of tuberculosis, it could be

844
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,040
thought that there was a vampire in the vicinity because, um, it causes extreme pallor.

845
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,120
So, um, it makes people super super pale and we, and lose weight.

846
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Um, so this would be associated with it.

847
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200
A lot would have, like what happens to Lucy in Dracula.

848
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Yeah.

849
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,200
So, yeah, exactly.

850
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,200
Yeah.

851
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,400
This also is all like the right time period, um, was me and the, the historian I was speaking

852
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,440
to, um, uh, so Adam, my husband, yeah, yeah.

853
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,600
They're not, not Jacques, the crazy guy.

854
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Um, uh, he did some research on vampires and did a presentation on it at the university

855
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,840
last year.

856
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,240
And there's a lot of talk of how like the like modern concept of vampire really didn't

857
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:17,160
come about until the mid 1700s when the Austro-Hungarian Empire expanded and they sent out

858
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,760
more people into Eastern Europe.

859
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,040
And then it was around the time of like scientific revolution was over.

860
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,040
It's the age of enlightenment.

861
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,200
And they were like, we're getting a lot of firsthand eyewitness reports, which is like

862
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,360
data that these things are real.

863
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,800
These walking dead, maybe it is.

864
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,640
And bring those stories back to like Vienna and discuss them and be like, can we solve

865
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,440
this with science and explain it?

866
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,440
Or is it real?

867
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Um, so the idea kind of spread from there.

868
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:51,200
And like the first like vampire fiction and stuff starts coming out about like between

869
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,960
50 and 100 years after that.

870
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,960
Oh, cool.

871
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Oh, yeah.

872
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Yeah.

873
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,960
Yeah.

874
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Yeah.

875
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,960
Neat.

876
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,160
What I really was like trying to like drill down on and like understand as I was like,

877
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,200
okay, but how do all these Eastern Europeans have these legends?

878
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,280
Where are those coming from?

879
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,880
And I feel like TV or whatever.

880
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,360
What I really wanted, what I was trying to force Adam into saying was maybe they're real.

881
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,360
I didn't even say it and didn't even seem to notice that that's what I really want to

882
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,520
happen.

883
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:27,200
So, so yeah, so I don't know about vampires in the middle ages and I really don't think

884
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,080
it makes any sense for Porphyria and I'm glad you agree with me.

885
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Yeah.

886
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Yeah.

887
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Mulder says to the doctor, can they be real?

888
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,680
Oh my God, what's wrong with me?

889
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,360
He mentions the word vampire right then.

890
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,360
Oh, otherwise.

891
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Okay.

892
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Mulder says, can they be real?

893
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
And then this was my favorite quote of the episode.

894
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:52,160
The doctor is in this one scene and he says, you are really upsetting me on several levels.

895
00:37:52,160 --> 00:38:01,240
And then they discover that there's an ink stamp burned onto the skin of the dead guy

896
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:05,000
burned by the heat and they can't quite make it out.

897
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,760
And so the doctor brings over like a lamp and holds a lamp to it and that makes it sort

898
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,760
of appear.

899
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,080
And the guy says, it's an old coroner's trick to make stamps appear.

900
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,080
I don't know.

901
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,320
I'm trying with some some coroners.

902
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,000
I'm going to have to ask them.

903
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,120
And if they don't know it, it's probably because they're not old coroners.

904
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,120
That's true.

905
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Yeah.

906
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,120
Yeah.

907
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,560
So Mulder is able to read the stamp, figure out what club it went to and go to that night

908
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,760
club and it's Club Tepeche.

909
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Oh, God.

910
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,000
And there is a big picture of Vlad Tepeche on the wall.

911
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,560
It's like on the cover of the historian, you know, like the fur and the mustache and the

912
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,560
long brown hair.

913
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Yeah.

914
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Yeah.

915
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,480
So that is interesting that they all have the same hair because we're about to meet

916
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,720
another character with the same hair.

917
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:54,720
No kidding.

918
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:55,720
Yes.

919
00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:01,600
Although I remember correctly, Vlad Tepeche's hair is more similar to mine than yours.

920
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,160
Like I remember, I think he's got some curl to it.

921
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,160
Right.

922
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Yeah, I think he did.

923
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Yeah.

924
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,160
Straight hair.

925
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaking of your hair and my hair, I had a very frustrating conversation with some

926
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,880
people last week in which two out of the three of them claim I have black hair.

927
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120
Oh, that's so annoying.

928
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,120
It's just wrong.

929
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Yeah.

930
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,120
Yeah.

931
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,120
Now, one of them was Adam.

932
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Oh, no.

933
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Yes.

934
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,720
He has long maintained that my hair is black and I've said, no, no, my sister's hair is

935
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:32,720
black.

936
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,440
Well, technically Helen's hair is almost black.

937
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Yeah.

938
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
And you know, I'm like, but Helen's is basically black.

939
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Mine is brown.

940
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,440
And he'll be like, no, yours is black.

941
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,440
hers is black.

942
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,440
I'm like, but they're not the same color you acknowledge that.

943
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:51,160
And he said, yes, yours is light black.

944
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,320
So I tried to say that's gray.

945
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,320
Yeah.

946
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,640
That's what light black means.

947
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,400
I actually have something to say scientifically about this.

948
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,000
So he's wrong.

949
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:19,640
No, it's, it's frustrating because we, when we talk when we, when I teach my students

950
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:27,920
about like our sensory organs, so our eyes, ears, nose, you know, we talk about like our

951
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,560
senses and sensory information, but how that's different from perception, that perception

952
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:40,560
like the way that we perceive ours, the information coming through our sensory organs is coming

953
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,320
from a different part of our brain.

954
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,680
And so it's going to be different than what is what the sense is.

955
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,920
So we can, that's how like some people can see like that, you know, the classic white

956
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,920
and gold dress.

957
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,920
Oh yeah.

958
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Yeah.

959
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,760
So I wanted to ask if this idea I had if this is an example of it or not.

960
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,760
Yeah.

961
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,880
I don't know about how one time I don't remember where I was, but I smelled a smell that was

962
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,600
like kind of like urine, but also like air freshener.

963
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,000
It wasn't a good smell.

964
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,760
I'm happy.

965
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,800
And so I took it in as like, this is a good smell.

966
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,240
And I realized it's the smell of an airplane bathroom.

967
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,880
And I, it made me feel like I was on my way to Europe.

968
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Sure.

969
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Uh huh.

970
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,840
Is that the same idea of like the sense and then the perception of the sense or is that

971
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,000
too many steps removed?

972
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000
No, that's different.

973
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:36,360
So that's more how we have a lot of our olfactory.

974
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:43,400
So smelling, nose stuff, being tied into our memory.

975
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:49,920
So there's, there's a lot of connections between memory and smell.

976
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,240
So like, like your example, or like when I smell this orange smell from Bath & Body

977
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,880
Works, it makes me feel like I'm in the dorm showers, like that sort of thing.

978
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Yeah.

979
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:00,880
Absolutely.

980
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,880
Like, it's great.

981
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:09,320
What I'm talking about is exactly this, that, or like how, you know, I'll see a skirt and

982
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,360
be like, oh, that's a nice brown skirt.

983
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,240
And someone else would be like, oh, it's, it's army green.

984
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,680
And I'll be like, you know, that's clearly brown.

985
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,520
And someone else will be like, no, that, you know, like those sorts of things.

986
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Is it kind of like, okay, and maybe I should just be like, no, it's just like the example

987
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,520
you gave.

988
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,520
I don't need to.

989
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,360
And would it be like, okay, let's imagine I'm at a park and there's some dogs and there's

990
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,240
a dog near me and then it's a lab and then there's another lab farther away.

991
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:43,080
My eyes go large lab, small lab and my brain goes close lab, far lab.

992
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:49,040
Is it the being able to interpret the like visual data of knowing that dog is far away?

993
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,440
I don't know.

994
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:58,400
I don't, I don't know if that is regulated in the same manner or not.

995
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Okay.

996
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,400
I'm trying to think of another example.

997
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Like other than sight.

998
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,400
Yeah.

999
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:14,120
I mean, I've had like their songs where I clearly the lyrics is one thing and somebody

1000
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120
else hears the lyrics of something else.

1001
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Kind of.

1002
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Yeah.

1003
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Those sorts of things.

1004
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Or just, I mean, that seems more like just being able to tell what someone is saying.

1005
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,800
But like smells, I think it can happen to like, oh, like, okay, here's a story that

1006
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,280
doesn't make me look good.

1007
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,240
If we want one of those.

1008
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:39,960
There's this weird implication that I've already told stories that don't make me look good.

1009
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,800
And I don't think I have, but no, that's not what I meant.

1010
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,120
All right, Liz, I'll trade.

1011
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,440
I don't know what I meant.

1012
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,440
All right.

1013
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,120
So anyway, go on with the you not sounding good though.

1014
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,120
Yeah.

1015
00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:04,520
When I was in junior high or high school, I got home from school and walked in the house

1016
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,520
and I smell tuna.

1017
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520
I don't know where this is going.

1018
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,520
I don't know where it's going.

1019
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,320
Vegetarian since she was four or five by the way.

1020
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,320
Yeah, I think I was five.

1021
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,480
And I am very not chill about the smell of tuna.

1022
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,720
It is one of my least favorite smells.

1023
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:31,640
And so I came in and again, I'd like to stress that I was young.

1024
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Yes.

1025
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,200
When you're young, you can't smell things properly.

1026
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,200
No, no, no.

1027
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,760
I mean, the fact that I ran upstairs crying.

1028
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:48,600
And I said, is that tuna?

1029
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:57,080
And our stepdad, Barrett, was at home and he has a very typically Dutch dry sarcastic

1030
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
sense of humor and just went, yes.

1031
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,560
And that's when I ran upstairs crying.

1032
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,440
It was popcorn though.

1033
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,440
It was just popcorn.

1034
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Your third example of this.

1035
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,440
Yep.

1036
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Yeah.

1037
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:16,720
So most people would have walked in and recognized the smell of popcorn.

1038
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:17,720
I smell tuna.

1039
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:18,720
Yeah.

1040
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:19,720
Yeah, that's okay.

1041
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:20,720
Yeah.

1042
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,520
So this frustrates you with respect to the hair.

1043
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:29,040
But to me, it's like an argument that maybe we're just interpreting hair colors differently

1044
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,840
and neither one of us is right.

1045
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,000
And me and Adam, and I don't like that conclusion.

1046
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,000
I want to be right.

1047
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Yeah.

1048
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Obviously.

1049
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Same.

1050
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000
I mean, yeah.

1051
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
I mean, I'm not right.

1052
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000
What?

1053
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000
How do we prove that I'm right?

1054
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000
I don't know.

1055
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:50,160
I mean, like, there's no way with science to prove me.

1056
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,880
No, I don't think, I mean, we could do some sort of, I don't know, I'm sure there's some

1057
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,240
way to measure values of color using some sort of machine, but I don't know.

1058
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:01,720
I mean, I don't know.

1059
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:07,360
The problem is like, what color things are in different light also changes.

1060
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,040
And my hair is black in the dark.

1061
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,560
Like, I mean, he's, he's flat out wrong about this.

1062
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,560
He's wrong.

1063
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,560
Yeah.

1064
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,560
Your hair is not black.

1065
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,440
Maybe we can have people vote.

1066
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,920
You know, it's the same thing too.

1067
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,880
I call people blonde a lot because I do have such dark hair.

1068
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,880
Yeah.

1069
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,640
So, I mean, I would call Adam blonde.

1070
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Would he agree?

1071
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Yes.

1072
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,640
Yes, he is blonde.

1073
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,640
Oh, okay.

1074
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,640
All right.

1075
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Well, there we go.

1076
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:41,120
But, you know, I have called people blonde and have them been like brown hair.

1077
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,800
And me, my hair is so dark.

1078
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,800
I see someone.

1079
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Oh, maybe that's why he's confused is because he's that any darker than like medium brown

1080
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,320
looks black to him.

1081
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,320
Yeah.

1082
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,560
So far, so much darker than his own.

1083
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Yeah.

1084
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Yeah.

1085
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,880
I just want to be like, look at the rich mahogany tones.

1086
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,880
I don't know.

1087
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Anyway, I'm really glad we're talking about your appearance because it's about to be very

1088
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,080
relevant.

1089
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Oh, okay.

1090
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:20,040
President love tepish and he sees a woman looking like putting on makeup using a compact

1091
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:26,320
with no mirror in it, which is just, I don't know, intolerable.

1092
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,640
I just I have such a low tolerance for self serious goss.

1093
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,360
I mean, I know that's partially my own background.

1094
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,360
Yeah.

1095
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,360
Yeah.

1096
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,360
Yeah.

1097
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Not just my own high school experiences, but also I guess I should the boyfriend of

1098
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,880
a dear friend of mine in college.

1099
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,720
Oh, I was thinking of your ex boyfriend.

1100
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,480
Oh, I mean, sure.

1101
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Obviously him.

1102
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,960
But again, I was like 15.

1103
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,160
I don't know.

1104
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,520
But it left me with a strong anti dating goss.

1105
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Serious goss, serious, serious goss.

1106
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,400
Well, I don't think I could date anyone who wears black velvet.

1107
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,200
I mean, I think that's fair.

1108
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Yeah.

1109
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,280
You know, especially because you're like, you know, 41.

1110
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:21,560
So like, and I mean, and thank God that like, okay, Adam doesn't care about clothes at all.

1111
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,080
And sometimes it'd be like, oh, you know, I want to like dress up and he's like, I want

1112
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,760
to wear a t-shirt and you know, it's like, oh, that's cool.

1113
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,760
That's your way.

1114
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,760
It'd be neat if you wear more clothes.

1115
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,760
Nope.

1116
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,640
Not if it meant he might be in the black velvet.

1117
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,200
The only person who should be wearing black velvet is Prince, in my opinion, the only man.

1118
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,200
And he died.

1119
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,680
So there were no, so yeah, no one else.

1120
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,560
I don't actually mean that rock stars.

1121
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:44,560
Sure.

1122
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,560
Do what you will.

1123
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,560
No, just friends.

1124
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,560
I disagree.

1125
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,560
Okay.

1126
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Or styles.

1127
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Very styles can do it.

1128
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Okay.

1129
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,560
What about Steven Tyler?

1130
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,560
I'd accept that.

1131
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Okay.

1132
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,560
All right.

1133
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,560
So there's a few exceptions.

1134
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Look at apply for exceptions, maybe.

1135
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Yes.

1136
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Yeah.

1137
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,560
Yeah.

1138
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Yeah.

1139
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,440
I'd like to mention leprechauns.

1140
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:14,960
When I was 15, dating this guy, he wore a top hat a lot.

1141
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,960
It wasn't a good look.

1142
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,560
I'm also a top hat.

1143
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,160
And what about leprechauns?

1144
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Well, we talked about Helen.

1145
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,560
Do you remember this plan?

1146
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,560
Because Helen is six and a half years.

1147
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,560
So you would have been 10, nine or 10?

1148
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,560
Something like that.

1149
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,560
Yeah.

1150
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,160
And we discussed a plan not actually going to be implemented in which Helen would be

1151
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,360
dressed like a leprechaun and would dart out of the bushes and grab his top hat and

1152
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,560
run away with it.

1153
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:50,320
And now that I'm thinking of this now, I think the best plan would have been to do that.

1154
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:57,280
And then for me to throw a bright green top hat back to pretend I turned it bright green

1155
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,800
and now he is only left with a happy color top hat.

1156
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,800
That's what I'd want to do now if I were to do this.

1157
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,320
I think he lives in California.

1158
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,320
I don't know if he still wears a top hat though.

1159
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,320
I'm probably too busy.

1160
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:19,560
I like the idea that that's what would be stopping us doing this is just our schedules.

1161
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Yeah.

1162
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,560
I've got some meetings lately.

1163
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Yeah.

1164
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,560
So.

1165
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,560
Okay.

1166
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,840
So she looks like you basically.

1167
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,400
She's very pale with black hair.

1168
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,960
That's maybe about your length or a little longer.

1169
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,960
Oh, mine.

1170
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,960
She looks like you.

1171
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,120
I mean, not to a creepy degree, but similar features.

1172
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,840
And she's kind of dressed, I don't know, normalish.

1173
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,600
And she's like, oh, are you going to ask what a normal person like me is doing in a place

1174
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,600
like this?

1175
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,600
And I, well, I hate her.

1176
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Yeah.

1177
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,080
I would never say that.

1178
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,600
No, you wouldn't.

1179
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Because, I mean, you might say that you yourself are asking yourself that.

1180
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,280
So why am I here?

1181
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,680
I mean, because it was very, I don't know, you know how clubs on TV shows are always not

1182
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680
very full?

1183
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:15,280
Like you can just tell like this is, it was, it was one of those vibes, but with a big

1184
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,720
giant picture of Vlad Tepes.

1185
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:20,560
I would not go to that bar now.

1186
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,560
No.

1187
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:27,080
So she orders two red wines and she says to Mulder, you've lost someone, not a lover,

1188
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,000
a friend, because she has, I don't know, vampirist intuition.

1189
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,480
Yeah, that's weird.

1190
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Yeah.

1191
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,760
And I also feel like, I don't know, it's one of those like psychic trickery things where

1192
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,960
you think if you say something vague enough, it'll apply to anyone.

1193
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,960
Yeah.

1194
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,040
And you can't be like, you know, think of someone who would match that, right?

1195
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,040
Yeah.

1196
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Like there's like, yeah, I can, you know, like immediately, right?

1197
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,960
Yeah.

1198
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,960
Right.

1199
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:59,880
And, and Mulder kind of glances in her purse and sees she's got a syringe in there.

1200
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:06,320
And he starts that John 52, 58, whatever, fake Bible verse 50, whatever it was, doesn't

1201
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,320
matter.

1202
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,320
52, 54.

1203
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Yeah.

1204
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Mulder starts it and she finishes it.

1205
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,640
And then she's like, you're afraid of me.

1206
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,160
I take the life of others.

1207
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,920
So she's acting like a vampire, I guess.

1208
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,400
And then we see the father.

1209
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,400
Okay.

1210
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,600
He's watching them from across the bar.

1211
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,800
And she's just like, I don't know, saying a lot of really pretentious things and it's

1212
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,120
supposedly like a sexually charged sort of conversation, but it wasn't, it was boring

1213
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,120
and dumb.

1214
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,120
Yeah.

1215
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:46,120
And then she uses a syringe to prick her finger, which I am not happy about having seen.

1216
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,120
Okay.

1217
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,920
And then tries to get Mulder to lick it.

1218
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:58,800
And finally, there's a reference to AIDS and he's like, AIDS, aren't you afraid?

1219
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,400
And she says, I wish I could die.

1220
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,600
And I wrote, I hate her.

1221
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,320
I wish he could too.

1222
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,320
Likewise, lady.

1223
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,040
Her name is Kristen.

1224
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,200
So I shall be referring to her as Kristen because that it's her name.

1225
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,840
So she goes and she finds some other guy to lick the blood off her finger.

1226
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,840
That's so dumb.

1227
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,840
That's so dumb.

1228
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:20,840
Dumb.

1229
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:26,000
It's so dumb and gross and not, I mean, not in America at all either.

1230
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,440
Like, no, it's kind of the opposite.

1231
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,440
Yeah.

1232
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,800
Well, Anne Rice vampires, in order to become a vampire, you have to drink from a vampire.

1233
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,360
If they have to bite you, you have to almost die and then you have to drink a bunch of

1234
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,480
their blood and kind of like blood seesaw.

1235
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,480
Yeah.

1236
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Yeah.

1237
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,560
I'm nodding like, like, well, sure, that's how that's how they're made.

1238
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:48,560
Of course.

1239
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,800
That is exactly how you were nodding.

1240
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,800
Yeah.

1241
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,840
That is in other books too.

1242
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,840
Okay.

1243
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,840
Was nodding.

1244
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Yeah.

1245
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,840
Okay, gotcha.

1246
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,840
I think honestly, I think that Anne Rice, I read, I mean, I read Twilight.

1247
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,440
Twilight was awful.

1248
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,040
That doesn't belong in this conversation.

1249
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,040
No.

1250
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,040
Thank you.

1251
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Yeah.

1252
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,120
But I read, yeah.

1253
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,720
And then I read most of, I read all the 90s Anne Rice books and then I read the historian

1254
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:16,720
and I've read Dracula.

1255
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:22,000
And so I feel like the ones that had the most actually making someone into a vampire are

1256
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000
the Anne Rice books.

1257
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Did you never read the Southern vampire mystery, the Suki Stackhouse True Blood books?

1258
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,080
I actually did.

1259
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,080
I never did.

1260
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,080
Oh.

1261
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,200
I mean, I could read a certain number of them.

1262
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Yeah.

1263
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,920
Oh, you should start at, I can't remember if it's book three or four.

1264
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:39,920
Okay.

1265
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Or maybe just book two.

1266
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,920
I'm gonna have to ask my friend Molly.

1267
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,920
Okay.

1268
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Excuse me.

1269
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,920
No.

1270
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,920
So I've read a lot of vampire fiction.

1271
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,920
Yeah.

1272
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,920
I mean, it's good stuff.

1273
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,920
It's good.

1274
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,200
I mean, vampires are my favorite monster.

1275
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,720
And I mean, I want to make it clear like when I talk about, oh, we're gonna do a vampire

1276
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,960
based trip or we're gonna, you know, whatever.

1277
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:04,480
I always picture I'm gonna hunt vampires because I don't want to like, like, if they're a little

1278
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,280
seductive, that's fine, whatever.

1279
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,440
But I really mostly want them to be scary.

1280
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,480
I don't want Twilight vampire who can only be in darkness because he's too sparkly.

1281
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,480
Yeah.

1282
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,480
No.

1283
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,320
I feel like, no, I maintain what I said before.

1284
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,800
Twilight should not even be a part of the discussion because it does a whole back.

1285
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,800
Yeah.

1286
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,800
Yeah.

1287
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,800
Yeah.

1288
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:32,600
But yeah, I think I like the idea of hunting them.

1289
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Yeah.

1290
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,680
But which is weird to say because I'm pretty anti hunting.

1291
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,680
Yeah.

1292
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,680
Well, it's different.

1293
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,520
It is a little different.

1294
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,520
Yeah.

1295
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Get my camo.

1296
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Oh, it's the first day of the season.

1297
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:55,280
I'm heading to Eastern Europe.

1298
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,560
So then they go to Mulder follows as Kristen goes with this dude who sucked a lot off her

1299
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,200
finger, Mulder follows behind them in a car and they go to 8428 Millrose Avenue and I

1300
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,160
don't know why they shared that address, but I wrote it down because it turns out it is

1301
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,640
in the same neighborhood that me and Adam just stayed in when we were in LA recently.

1302
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,640
Oh, no kidding.

1303
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,640
We can walk quiet.

1304
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Whoa.

1305
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,600
It's a nice neighborhood.

1306
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,240
It's like near like partially like Beverly Hills.

1307
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:22,760
Like it's nice.

1308
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,800
But there's like on the show, it looks kind of desolate and there's a restaurant called

1309
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,760
Ra, like RA and it shows the Egyptian God.

1310
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,760
Sure.

1311
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,840
And Mulder says the father, the son.

1312
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,000
And at this point right now in real time, I'm realizing I'm spending so much time talking

1313
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,000
about this terrible episode.

1314
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,480
I just feel like I have so much to say and I really want everyone listening to understand

1315
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,480
how bad it was.

1316
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,000
So I mean, we've taken a lot of tangents as well.

1317
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,000
Yeah.

1318
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,880
I mean, yeah, that's a terrible episode, but we didn't have to discuss sensory perception

1319
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,360
and my hair color.

1320
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
But yeah, right.

1321
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,360
Yeah, right.

1322
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,840
Yeah, but it didn't count.

1323
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,560
Yeah, that's fair.

1324
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:11,640
So so Mulder's watching her and the guy and they're like making out and it seems like

1325
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,360
there might be blood involved like all over and then you see another car pull up and it's

1326
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,040
kind of going to be clear that it's the father.

1327
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,560
And then the dude that she's with comes outside and shouts and punches Mulder and says, I don't

1328
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:30,360
know who you are a freak, but we are two consenting adults, which was an awesome line.

1329
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:36,400
And so Mulder is inside and he's like, oh, no, no, I'm sorry, Mulder's Mulder's been

1330
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,400
punched.

1331
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,560
She's outside the dude who said that goes back in and he's looking for Kristen and he

1332
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,600
can't find her.

1333
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,160
And then the father comes in and kills him.

1334
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Okay.

1335
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,840
And so Mulder then is on the seats like the next day.

1336
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,560
He's on the scene with like forensics and he sees, oh, broken mirrors.

1337
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,600
Oh, there's the stupid contact or compact with no mirror.

1338
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,240
And he sees a big giant like industrial sized can of raspberry sauce dripping and realizes

1339
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,200
that's actually what they were doing was licking enormous amounts of raspberry sauce off each

1340
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,200
other.

1341
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,200
Not blood.

1342
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,200
Huh.

1343
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,240
We're two consenting adults.

1344
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,600
We can lick raspberry sauce.

1345
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,600
Yeah.

1346
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,920
In, you know, alarming like a pink gallon sort of size.

1347
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,640
Well, I guess that's any gallon.

1348
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,880
It's the same size.

1349
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,760
And so Mulder has like a forensic dentist, which sounded like sort of seen.

1350
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,760
Yeah.

1351
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,760
Yeah.

1352
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:41,720
The bites on him were done by three different people, which was curious to me because I'm

1353
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,040
like, all right, John is dead.

1354
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Right.

1355
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:51,520
And I'm like, is it then Kristen and the father and I'm confused.

1356
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:57,000
So then we got like Mulder doing research and he finds out that Kristen, her last name

1357
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000
is killar.

1358
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,280
Oh my God.

1359
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,520
Yeah.

1360
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,720
And so she lived in both Portland and Memphis, which is the towns where the other two killings

1361
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,720
happened.

1362
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,960
So he's like, she's the unholy spirit.

1363
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,960
Right.

1364
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,560
Like, yeah, obviously.

1365
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:13,560
Okay.

1366
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:19,040
So he goes to her fancy apartment and they have a warrant and he finds a huge box of veterinary

1367
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:26,080
needles and a snake bite kit thing to extract poison, but it's all bloody.

1368
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,320
Yeah.

1369
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,520
And oh God.

1370
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,520
Yeah.

1371
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,400
I forgot about this part.

1372
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:42,280
This I, he looks in her oven and sees like a.

1373
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:50,160
It looks like a hoagie roll with like something inside it like raspberry sauce, maybe.

1374
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,160
Okay.

1375
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,440
And he immediately knows what's going on and he says to the cops, she's gone.

1376
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840
She's not coming back.

1377
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,720
And I'm like, did I just see a sandwich?

1378
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,080
What is happening?

1379
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,840
And so then it's like 2am and Mulder is in her apartment and she comes back and he's

1380
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,960
like, they're after you, aren't they?

1381
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,720
I'm, you know, special agent Fox Mulder.

1382
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:23,440
And he's, so he says that biting bread filled with blood is an Eastern Europe peon tradition

1383
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,920
for protection.

1384
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,800
Oh, yeah.

1385
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:34,000
I did only the most cursory amount of research on this, but I feel confident it's not true.

1386
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,080
I, I, and maybe it is.

1387
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,920
Maybe I'll look up more and it is.

1388
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:45,160
I was just like, I'm at so, so what I believe what we saw in the oven was bread filled with

1389
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,080
blood that she just had waiting around.

1390
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,080
Uh huh.

1391
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,240
And she could eat it.

1392
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,240
Sure.

1393
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,240
Yeah.

1394
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,240
Like you do.

1395
01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:02,240
I mean, being partially Eastern European ourselves, I feel like that's wrong.

1396
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:11,760
Look, we've heard about like the scary traditions of our people, like the supernces, you know,

1397
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,400
which is a slug with your eyes and it's a type of witch and you have to cross your fingers

1398
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,240
and toes so it doesn't get you in the night.

1399
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Yes.

1400
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Um, and, uh, I've, my kids have been watching a lot of Vampirina.

1401
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,480
Like, is there any blood pogies?

1402
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,320
No, you know what?

1403
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:34,920
This morning they were watching it and, uh, there, there's no blood at all.

1404
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,600
And like, yes, it's a children's cartoon, but why are they vampires?

1405
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,960
They have sharp teeth.

1406
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,000
They like, but, but why?

1407
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,000
What are they using?

1408
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,000
They never show them eating.

1409
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,000
Yeah.

1410
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:50,080
They eat like weird, like spooky stuff, like eyeball soup and stuff.

1411
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,400
Um, they never discuss where those eyeballs come from.

1412
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,960
Um, and also there, I have sent my friend Melanie.

1413
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:08,120
Too many texts about the fact that, um, their chef is a skeleton and as an osteologist, I

1414
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:15,000
just have a lot of questions about how he's standing and why his bones are shaped the

1415
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,000
way they are.

1416
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:22,440
Um, and I realized these are unanswerable questions, but I have a lot of thoughts about

1417
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,440
Vampirina.

1418
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,440
Vampirina lore.

1419
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,920
I bet there's a community.

1420
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:34,520
Well, like, okay, I'm sorry, I have to, but in the theme song, um, she said something

1421
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,080
about like, and maybe blue with pointy teeth.

1422
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:45,160
Um, and like she is blue, her and her family are, but then it's like, I always took until

1423
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,600
I realized what she was saying in the theme song, your hair looks nice, by the way.

1424
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,600
Good.

1425
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:50,600
That's what we're going for.

1426
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,880
Um, in the theme song, or I always thought like the blue was like just signified.

1427
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,000
I helped pale.

1428
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,120
They were, you know, yeah.

1429
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,040
Um, but she mentions being blue.

1430
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:07,280
And so it's like what the people of Pennsylvania are so stupid that they can't tell that you're

1431
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,240
blue and have pointy teeth.

1432
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:14,040
And we also have relative sailing from Pennsylvania and they're not that stupid.

1433
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,040
I know.

1434
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,960
And I am, I am offended on behalf of both Pennsylvanians and Eastern Europeans that they

1435
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,040
have gotten so many things wrong.

1436
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,880
This, you should write in.

1437
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,880
I should write in.

1438
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,320
Podcasts should start a letter writing campaign.

1439
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,320
Yeah.

1440
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,520
I think it could make a real difference.

1441
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,640
More blood drinking in this children's program, please.

1442
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,640
Yeah.

1443
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,800
I mean, do they sleep in coffins?

1444
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,920
No, they have beds and they can be out in the daytime.

1445
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,920
Like there's nothing.

1446
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,280
At what point is it, is a vampire, even a vampire at that point, you know?

1447
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,280
Exactly.

1448
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,280
Yeah.

1449
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,520
These are the philosophical questions.

1450
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,520
Yeah.

1451
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,080
I'm looking for answers to.

1452
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,080
Yeah.

1453
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,920
Have you watched what we do in the shadows?

1454
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,000
No, but people keep telling me to.

1455
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Right.

1456
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,000
It's really good.

1457
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,000
Okay.

1458
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,000
It's really good.

1459
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,000
Okay.

1460
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,000
What's it on?

1461
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,000
Hulu?

1462
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,000
Hulu.

1463
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Yeah.

1464
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,000
Okay.

1465
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,000
Okay.

1466
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,000
All right.

1467
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,000
No, it's okay.

1468
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,000
So let's wrap this up.

1469
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,000
Let's wrap this up because it's going to get real stupid.

1470
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,280
So Mulder is like, she's protecting herself with this red blood.

1471
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,920
And so he's like, they're going to try to kill you.

1472
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,520
And they're kind of, you know, dancing around the vampire word and, you know, not really

1473
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,520
saying it.

1474
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,920
And it's all very meant to be sexual again, but really stupid.

1475
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,120
He brings up Memphis in Portland and like, you lived there.

1476
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,280
So like, I kind of get this lady.

1477
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,960
I don't understand why he was like, she must be the killer.

1478
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:42,960
This is where she lived.

1479
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,440
Oh, but she's got bread filled with blood.

1480
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,040
So actually I need to protect her.

1481
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,040
Right.

1482
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,040
Yeah.

1483
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,040
Yeah.

1484
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:55,760
So she was very bad childhood, she was beaten by her dad and then her mouth was filled with

1485
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,200
blood and she realized she was alive.

1486
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:06,880
And then she met John and the son and he also beat her or he beat her and then they like

1487
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,680
got into blood stuff.

1488
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,400
And then she lost him.

1489
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,400
Unclear what that means.

1490
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,320
I don't know, maybe in like a Walmart.

1491
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,760
And so she moved around the country to avoid him.

1492
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,680
And he followed her to Memphis in Portland.

1493
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,120
So the implication is the murders happened there by John.

1494
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,640
She didn't do it.

1495
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:27,640
Yeah.

1496
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,640
To the protection from him.

1497
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,640
Yes.

1498
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,640
Yeah.

1499
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,880
So Mulder says, you know, John's dead.

1500
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,880
Yeah.

1501
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,640
Burned him up.

1502
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,640
And she's like, oh, well, I'm not, I'm not going to go into protective custody and find

1503
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,640
them without John.

1504
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,520
They're not going to come for me.

1505
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,320
Then Mulder is shaving.

1506
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,320
Okay.

1507
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,920
So like you do when you're staying at a person's new place and you have real good priorities.

1508
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,000
Oh, he's staying at her apartment?

1509
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,000
Yes.

1510
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,720
It's like the middle of the night and he's going to shave.

1511
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,520
He's with her in her apartment.

1512
01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:59,520
Huh.

1513
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,520
And there's no mirror.

1514
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:07,520
So she shaves him with a straight razor and it's like, oh, is she going to cut his neck?

1515
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,520
Oh my God.

1516
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:09,520
I don't know.

1517
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,520
It was really dumb.

1518
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,520
And then they sleep together.

1519
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,520
Mulder.

1520
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:19,200
Your voice is doing that thing minded where you got too high and indignation when you

1521
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,920
told me that I might commit mass murder under the right circumstances.

1522
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,200
I can be indignant.

1523
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,200
Yeah.

1524
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:37,440
I mean, listen, I get that Scully is kidnapped or whatever and he might be feeling self-destructive,

1525
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,240
but like you got to have some standards, right?

1526
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,240
Like, come on, man.

1527
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,240
Right.

1528
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:47,120
I mean, like, like even sleeping with that awful British woman who is his friend and

1529
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,760
they also would be better than this.

1530
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:50,760
Absolutely.

1531
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,760
Yeah.

1532
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,760
Yes.

1533
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,960
So who's looking in through the window while they have sex?

1534
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:55,960
The father.

1535
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,880
No, John, he's alive.

1536
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,880
No kidding.

1537
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:00,880
Yeah.

1538
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,520
Um, so Kristen like gets up in the night while Mulder is sleeping and John is in the house

1539
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,240
and he's like grabbed her and he's like, we come back.

1540
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,240
It worked.

1541
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,760
Um, there is no explanation of like, how do you get out of the morgue in the little drawer

1542
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,760
or whatever?

1543
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:15,760
I don't know.

1544
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:22,160
And, uh, and so he gets a knife and he really wants Kristen to kill Mulder because let me

1545
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,080
see if I'm saying this right.

1546
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,040
Mulder believes in them being vampires.

1547
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,920
So she needs to drink the blood of a believer in order to become a vampire herself because

1548
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,920
she isn't one.

1549
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:34,920
Huh.

1550
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:35,920
Okay.

1551
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,960
She doesn't want to kill Mulder, but well, we're not sure.

1552
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,280
And so she goes in and she's got a big old knife, like a big butcher knife and she's

1553
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,520
like, Mulder, you got to go and she's got it behind her back.

1554
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,960
And then Mulder's like getting up to go and she gets at the knife and she suddenly is

1555
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,040
like stab, stab, stab of this guy standing in the shadows and the father was there all

1556
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,360
along and you couldn't see him.

1557
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,960
And so she stabs him a bunch.

1558
01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:59,960
Okay.

1559
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:02,440
And he's like, that I guess.

1560
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:07,080
And then John comes in and John attacks and Mulder and John fight and Mulder restrains

1561
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,960
him and Mulder has some blood on him, I guess.

1562
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,520
Maybe got hurt in the fight.

1563
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,320
Kristen's all out of it.

1564
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,400
They get in the car.

1565
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,720
They're going to leave.

1566
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:24,960
Another woman jumps onto the roof of the car and drags Mulder out of the car.

1567
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,120
Who is this?

1568
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:31,600
I guess she's the Holy Spirit, the unholy spirit.

1569
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,800
She's got the same hair as everyone else in this episode.

1570
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,560
And we've never seen her before.

1571
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,000
It does not feel like a big reveal.

1572
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,600
It feels like, oh, there's some lady here now.

1573
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:47,320
And Kristen hits the woman with her car and there's a wooden stick pointing out of the

1574
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,800
wall that as she hits the woman, the woman gets impaled on the wooden stick.

1575
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,440
And so Mulder's like, we got to go.

1576
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:56,440
The Malibu fires are coming.

1577
01:08:56,440 --> 01:08:58,600
And so Kristen's like, well, I won't leave without John.

1578
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,000
We can't leave him here to die in the fires.

1579
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,000
Why?

1580
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,160
Ironic because the next move is, OK, I don't look.

1581
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,280
I just watched this and I watched it multiple times.

1582
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,640
So I'm telling you, this is all I've got.

1583
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,640
Sure.

1584
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,160
Mulder goes in the house to get John.

1585
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,160
Yeah.

1586
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,680
Kristen drives away in the car.

1587
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:20,680
Next scene.

1588
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:25,240
Mulder, because his car, he left somewhere else down the road.

1589
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,760
Mulder is down at his own car.

1590
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:33,600
Kristen is in the house, she goes back into the house and she's pouring gasoline all over

1591
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,760
and she's going to light it on fire and kill them all.

1592
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,520
And John's like, you can't kill us.

1593
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:40,520
You're not one of us.

1594
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,280
And she's like, well, I'm going to become one of you.

1595
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,760
I tasted the blood of a believer of Mulder.

1596
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,320
And he's like, yeah, but you haven't taken a life.

1597
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,520
And she's like, well, I'm going to take my own and all of ours.

1598
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,680
And so she throws down a match.

1599
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:59,000
Okay, a little bit of science or maybe just thinking about science as a field that we

1600
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,000
know exists.

1601
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,000
Yeah.

1602
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,000
She's pouring gasoline on the floor.

1603
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Uh-huh.

1604
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,000
She drops a match.

1605
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,880
Mulder is a block away at the car and he sees the biggest fucking fireball.

1606
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:16,680
This enormous explosion, like an oil tanker exploded or something, like this huge massive

1607
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,720
explosion that completely destroys the house.

1608
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,680
And Mulder sees it from a distance and then we go, and I should mention what Mulder's

1609
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,960
been wearing for all of this.

1610
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:33,280
It is black pants, a white button down, unbuttoned most of the way and Scully's cross.

1611
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:41,160
And so, um, oh my gosh, and he talks to the firefighter and he says, you know, did you

1612
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,440
find bodies?

1613
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:47,760
And they're like, yeah, there were four bodies, but they were, you know, burned beyond recognition.

1614
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,760
And Mulder kind of looks at the cross and that's the end of the episode.

1615
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,880
Oh my God, that's so bad.

1616
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,400
I thought, oh, we're going to see a reveal that they're not really dead.

1617
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,400
Yeah.

1618
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Or something.

1619
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,000
I mean, I thought about things.

1620
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,000
It was terrible.

1621
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,840
It was so self serious.

1622
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,480
It was like, oh, it was like trying to be a 90s erotic thriller with really irritating

1623
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:16,880
pretentious vampires.

1624
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,440
Oh man, that's awful.

1625
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,160
Well thank you for taking one for the team.

1626
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,960
Yeah, watching that.

1627
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:24,960
Literally.

1628
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:25,960
Yeah.

1629
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,120
Um, what's next?

1630
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,280
Up next is One Breath when they find Scully.

1631
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Yeah.

1632
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,280
Sorry.

1633
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,600
His face shows the right expression, which is, oh, I'm going to get a really good episode

1634
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,600
again.

1635
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,600
Yeah.

1636
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,600
Three.

1637
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:40,600
What's after that?

1638
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,080
Oh, that's a good question.

1639
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:50,360
What is next after One Breath is Firewalker, which, that sounds familiar, but I don't remember

1640
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,360
what that is.

1641
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,000
Yeah.

1642
01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:00,480
I feel like I think, I mean, it's like another active and moldy and Scully-go-man-somewhere

1643
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:01,480
one.

1644
01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:03,400
Yeah, yeah.

1645
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,600
It doesn't, I don't remember anything terrible.

1646
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,600
No, I think, I mean, I'm sure it'll be better than what I just watched.

1647
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,600
Yeah.

1648
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,600
I think it would have to be.

1649
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,720
I think literally any other episode would be.

1650
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:14,720
Yeah.

1651
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,720
So, yeah.

1652
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,520
Well, thank you for your service.

1653
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,600
You're welcome.

1654
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,120
It was, I mean, it was a treat to spend a lot of time talking about how much I hated

1655
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,120
it.

1656
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,240
And like I said, there was a little bit of good stuff with Maltry being sad and like

1657
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,480
two lines that I didn't hate.

1658
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:32,480
Wow.

1659
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:33,480
Man.

1660
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:38,440
Did we get like some like, shirtless stated to Cogni?

1661
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:39,440
Not entirely.

1662
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:40,440
Oh yeah, maybe.

1663
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:42,600
I mean, like, I think he was shirtless while she was shaving him.

1664
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,320
So it's like, I can't even, I can't appreciate him.

1665
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,560
I'm so annoyed.

1666
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,920
You know, it's just like, yeah.

1667
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:54,200
I felt so irritated by the reveal that it's like surprise other brunette lady.

1668
01:12:54,200 --> 01:13:03,400
You know, like, but yeah, you should watch Basic Instinct because it's, I mean, it's

1669
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:04,840
it's quality trash.

1670
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,200
Like it's just, yeah.

1671
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:15,000
I don't say that as a novelist, I really enjoy it because one of the ideas is that the way

1672
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,600
these murders happen are things that she wrote about in her books.

1673
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:25,360
And so could she be, she couldn't be stupid enough to murder someone in the way she wrote

1674
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,440
about in her books.

1675
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:30,680
But what if she's doing that because she knows that's what people will think.

1676
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,200
And so, I mean, that's, it's just bananas.

1677
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,200
I love it.

1678
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,360
So yeah, that's awesome.

1679
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,360
Well, yeah.

1680
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,080
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1681
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:46,440
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1682
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:47,440
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1683
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:51,600
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1684
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,600
And until next week.

1685
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:54,600
Okay.

1686
01:13:54,600 --> 01:14:09,260
That part is over.