1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Well, welcome everyone to episode one of season three of the Poggle Podcast. 2 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,800 This season is all about the practice of Poggle. 3 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,960 I am your host, Wayne Pearson, and with me today is Siobhan Julian. 4 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,240 Hello, Siobhan. 5 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Hello, Wayne. 6 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,920 So what do you have in store for our listeners today? 7 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,640 Well, today is actually, I think, a very special episode. 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:52,160 We're going to be talking about NCAP, which is the National Conference to Advance Poggle 9 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:53,160 Practice. 10 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:56,640 And this was a very meaningful event for me. 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,880 So I am very excited to have with us here today Joyce Easter. 12 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,700 It's my pleasure to introduce Dr. Joyce Easter. 13 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:08,120 She teaches at Virginia Wesleyan University. 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,320 Biochemist by training, she teaches in the chemistry department. 15 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:14,920 She's been using Poggle since before it was called Poggle. 16 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,440 So she is an OG Poggler. 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,640 And she's been a leader in the Poggle Project for many years. 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,080 Currently, Joyce is the chair of the planning committee for the National Conference to Advance 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,680 Poggle Practice, and she is here to talk to us about this awesome event. 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,680 Welcome, Joyce. 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,680 Thank you. 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,160 It's great to be here. 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,560 So Joyce, tell us, you're planning this conference, you're the head of the planning committee. 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,920 What is NCAP? 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Well, NCAP is the National Conference to Advance Poggle Practice, which is a conference designed 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,960 specifically for Poggle practitioners. 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,080 It has been held by annually in June since 2017. 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,560 And the main goal of the conference is to transform education and educators by connecting 29 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,640 educators from across the country and the world, from a variety of disciplines and with 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,280 diverse experiences. 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:11,760 To this end, the conference offers an engaging environment for sharing ideas, challenges, 32 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,040 successes that participants have had using Poggle in their classrooms and their laboratories. 33 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,840 The format of the conference includes a variety of session types, all of which are participant-centered, 34 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,240 ranging from discussions and conversations to workshops and poster sessions. 35 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,600 That sounds fantastic. 36 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,600 So why should our listeners apply to NCAP? 37 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Why do we want to go? 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,880 That's a great question. 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,120 This conference promotes a very engaging environment in which all of the practitioners are going 40 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,000 to gain insights into effective teaching and facilitation. 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,600 They will share and find new activities and approaches for the classroom and laboratory. 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,800 They will develop support networks. 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,240 And what I find most intriguing is established collaborations with other practitioners. 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,400 So participants will leave with new ideas for Poggle activities. 45 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,920 They'll have new strategies for implementation, and they'll have new colleagues for collaborative 46 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:07,040 projects. 47 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,040 So those of you who want to develop skills as a practitioner, you want to broaden your 48 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,840 participation and contribution, the Poggle community should definitely apply. 49 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Thank you, Joyce. 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,840 That's wonderful. 51 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:26,280 And when I went to my first NCAP, I came back with so much that I was able to share with 52 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,960 colleagues who didn't go. 53 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,120 And it was really just an incredible experience. 54 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaking of my first NCAP, people who are new to the Poggle project, as I was when I 55 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,160 applied, might be surprised that there isn't actually an application process to attend 56 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,160 NCAP. 57 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,200 You can't just register like at other conferences. 58 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Can you tell us a little bit about this application process? 59 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,920 So the application process is not meant to be onerous, and it's not really meant to be 60 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,080 a hardship for the participants. 61 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:05,440 It really is a way for us as the planning committee to try to match the participants 62 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,080 with the right type of presentation, as well as sometimes we pair people up and they end 63 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,840 up being like co-presenters or co-facilitators for sessions. 64 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,280 So the process itself is basically telling us a little bit about yourself, including 65 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:21,640 in that your experience. 66 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,640 How experienced are you? 67 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Are you relatively new to being a practitioner with the pedagogy, or have you been doing 68 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,160 it for many years? 69 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,080 And what types of workshops that you've already been involved in and how you're involved with 70 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,280 the project already, if at all. 71 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:41,480 And the application process really is necessary for this conference because we want to ensure 72 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:47,680 that we can have an engaging environment where all the participants are more than just attendees. 73 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,320 This is not one of those conferences where you register, you go to your session, you 74 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 present, and then you don't attend anything else. 75 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,720 We really want people who want to be fully engaged. 76 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,720 So we want everyone to really be contributors to the program, both as in their sessions 77 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,960 that they might be leading, but also actively engaged in the other sessions that they are 78 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,960 attending. 79 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,080 Yeah, thank you so much for that, Joyce. 80 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,040 Just from a personal standpoint, I remember feeling a little intimidated by the fact that 81 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,200 there was an application the first time, but it really is, I love how you put it, that 82 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,560 it's really more about getting at your POGLE profile. 83 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,420 What is your experience? 84 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:28,680 Tell us a little bit about yourself. 85 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,680 The application is really more along the we want to get to know you sort of line. 86 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,360 With that in mind, who should apply to NCAP? 87 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,640 I would say if you use POGLE as a part of your teaching toolkit and you want to develop 88 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,440 your skills as a POGLE practitioner, you should apply, right? 89 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,200 So anyone who falls into that category, whether you are relatively new to POGLE or you are 90 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,120 a seasoned POGLE practitioner, you will benefit from participating in the conference. 91 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Everybody gets something out of this conference if they come and attend. 92 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,680 People in the POGLE project are always very welcoming to new people. 93 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,760 So if you're thinking that I'm too new to this, I shouldn't apply, trust me, you should. 94 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,520 Joyce, what are you looking forward to about NCAP 2023? 95 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,440 I'm always eager to get back together with other POGLE practitioners. 96 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,200 It's always really inspiring. 97 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,720 But what I'm most looking forward to this conference, I've been to each of the NCAPs 98 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:33,240 prior to this, but we have really three incredible plenary speakers and I am very eager to hear 99 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,600 each of them speak. 100 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Elise Eidman-Adal is the executive director of the National Writing Project and her area 101 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,600 of expertise is in literacy and learning in the new digital age. 102 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,240 It is so very timely, right? 103 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Particularly with everything that's happened in the last couple of years in terms of turning 104 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,920 to so much technology, there's a social transformation that's occurred and I really am eager to hear 105 00:06:53,920 --> 00:07:00,520 what she has to say about this particular time and how the digital age is affecting 106 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,800 student learning. 107 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Peter Kaladay is one of our other plenary speakers. 108 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,800 He's somebody from within the POGLE project. 109 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Anyone who has been to workshops before probably has heard of him. 110 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,520 He's a high school teacher in the Chicago area. 111 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,280 He's been very involved in the POGLE project for a number of years, but in particular, 112 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,800 been involved in the development of the classroom observation protocol working group for a number 113 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:31,920 of years and they produced the optic assessment tool for teachers to evaluate their facilitation, 114 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,440 have somebody come in and look at what's happening in their classrooms, which is particularly 115 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,200 important I know at the secondary level when you have to have those sorts of evaluations. 116 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:47,160 I think that he has many years of experience that are very practical, probably very relevant 117 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,120 to many of us who are practicing POGLE. 118 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:57,760 The third one is Ellie Theobald, who's a professor of biology at the University of Washington. 119 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,760 She's also a former high school teacher. 120 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,480 She's been researching how to achieve equity in STEM education by addressing both instructor 121 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,440 and systemic practices. 122 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:13,880 Really trying to come up with real concrete ways to implement changes in the practices 123 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:20,160 to try to obliterate the inequities that are so prevalent in education today. 124 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,960 I can't wait to see what she has to say about some of the things. 125 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,200 I hope there's some take homes from that as well of how we can actually implement some 126 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,840 of her ideas into our classrooms. 127 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,040 Wow, those sound like just fantastic speakers. 128 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,360 I'm looking forward to it too now. 129 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,960 Joyce, what are some of your best takeaways from previous NCAP meetings? 130 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,240 I think one of the most inspiring aspects of the POGLE project just in general is the 131 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,640 inspiration and support we gain from participating in this transformative community. 132 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 It truly is a community. 133 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:59,320 There's some people I only see every couple of years when I'm at conferences like the 134 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:05,320 NCAP or even the BCCE, which chemistry people go to. 135 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,040 You reconnect as if you haven't been apart for two years. 136 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,180 For me, the most exciting and rewarding feature of this particular conference is the interactions 137 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:18,560 with the members of the POGLE community, the sharing of our experiences, the expertise 138 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:22,920 and the insights between the participants is the real value that I gain from the experience. 139 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,280 I always leave this conference with at least one action item that I'm inspired to tackle 140 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,800 in the coming year to improve my facilitation or my activity writing. 141 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,440 And ultimately, that impacts the education experience of my students. 142 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,920 For me, that's the most exciting or inspiring aspect of this conference is that there's 143 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,520 always something that I can take back and inspire my students to improve their education. 144 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Yeah, 100%. 145 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Same with me. 146 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:59,560 And I'm so, so looking forward to having another in-person NCAP. 147 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:02,000 Where is it being held, Joyce? 148 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,520 So it is being held at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. 149 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,480 And the dates are June 26 to June 28 in 2023. 150 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Awesome. 151 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,560 And when are the applications going to go out? 152 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,100 Approximately when? 153 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:27,840 So the application, the call for proposals or call for applications should be going out 154 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,520 in middle October at the latest. 155 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,280 That's typically our target date is to get that out in October. 156 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,800 And then we'll start putting the program together early 2023. 157 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,800 And like I said, that sometimes we actually match pair people up based on their interests. 158 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,200 They're presenting on very similar things. 159 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,860 We sometimes pair people up. 160 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:54,560 And so you'll need time to interact with those other people that you're going to be paired 161 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:55,560 with. 162 00:10:55,560 --> 00:11:01,080 And so we really do try to get the program together fairly early so people can prepare. 163 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,160 One of the other aspects of this with the application process is that you can tell us 164 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,360 what type of sessions you're most interested in. 165 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,400 And you can propose ideas for different sessions. 166 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,040 You may or may not get selected for all the sessions. 167 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,280 But again, you need to know which one you got selected for. 168 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,720 So we do try to get through that applications and make those decisions pretty early in 2023. 169 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Yeah. 170 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,160 And there are some very low key types of sessions as well. 171 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,960 So if you're interested in presenting but you don't necessarily want to do a full blown 172 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,080 formal thing, there are other ways that you can participate. 173 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,400 What are the types of sessions, speaking of that, what are the types of sessions that 174 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,760 NCAP has? 175 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,640 So again, we have some of those low key things like birds of a feather discussions or conversations. 176 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,880 So that's kind of more informal. 177 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,080 So if you have a topic that you want to get together with other people and chat about, 178 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,480 it's more of a conversational get together. 179 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,240 And then along those lines, we also have more extended discussions, a little bit more formalized 180 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,960 with more formal focus questions with small groups. 181 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,160 And those are called roundtables. 182 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 And so you could facilitate one of those sessions as well. 183 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,380 We also have an opportunity for you to engage in professional development workshops. 184 00:12:17,380 --> 00:12:20,880 And so those are workshops similar to what you might have already participated in and 185 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 a POCAL workshop in the past. 186 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,720 And we're very excited that this year we're going to roll out the facilitators toolbox, 187 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,280 which is a new session that is now in the three day facilitators training. 188 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:40,080 But for those of us who might have had our training prior to the session being created, 189 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,120 we'll have that opportunity to do that one as well. 190 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,440 And then we have an opportunity if you want to improve your facilitation skills, we do 191 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,680 have a few facilitation fish bowls. 192 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:55,040 This is where you can facilitate an activity, shorten activity, and focus on a particular 193 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,960 aspect of facilitation that you want to improve on. 194 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:03,320 And then the people who are participating in this session will be able to give you feedback, 195 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,960 some insights into your facilitation, whatever the areas you want to improve. 196 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,960 It's a very typical traditional poster session. 197 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,320 And we also have an opportunity if you want to improve on your activity writing, we do 198 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:23,200 have some like author coaching sessions where you do some collaborative peer evaluation 199 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,120 of each other's activities. 200 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,200 Yeah. 201 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:35,520 I will put a big put up for the facilitator toolbox that I think that's easily one of 202 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:41,160 the most valuable things out there for any POGAL practitioner to have a look at. 203 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,680 Well, thank you so much, Joyce. 204 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,120 That sounds absolutely terrific. 205 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,280 I know I'm going to be applying to NCAP 100%. 206 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,480 As soon as that comes in, I'm going to fill that form out and put that in. 207 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,560 And I hope that all of our listeners apply as well. 208 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:58,480 It is truly, truly a worthwhile conference. 209 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:05,280 It's a fantastic event, a wonderful opportunity for community building and learning. 210 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,400 Thank you everyone for listening and I'm going to hand it back to Wayne. 211 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Thank you, Siobhan. 212 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,620 And thank you, Joyce, for sharing that important information about NCAP 2023. 213 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:21,460 As Joyce said, the plan is to open the application window for NCAP in October. 214 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:23,280 I have good news for you though. 215 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,520 The release of this episode and the opening of the application window are simultaneous. 216 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,640 So if you are listening, that means that you can apply now. 217 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,700 Don't miss your opportunity to attend this great and might I add really fun conference. 218 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,360 Why not apply today? 219 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,320 There are three ways that you can get to an application. 220 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,800 Number one, go directly to the POGAL website, www.pogal.org. 221 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,000 You will find an online application form there. 222 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,920 Number two, if you are in the POGAL database and a lot of you are, you should be receiving 223 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,520 an email with a link to the application. 224 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,720 And number three, look for the announcement in the POGAL practitioners Facebook page. 225 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,280 You will find the link to the application there also. 226 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,780 And you will find a discussion thread for NCAP at hashtag the POGAL podcast. 227 00:15:12,780 --> 00:15:17,400 If you have any questions or comments about NCAP, you can join the discussion on the Facebook 228 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,020 page. 229 00:15:19,020 --> 00:15:20,240 So there you have it. 230 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Three ways to get to an application and no reason that I can think of not to apply. 231 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,920 Thanks for listening to this NCAP 2023 episode of the POGAL podcast. 232 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,140 We will be back soon with another episode about the practice of POGAL. 233 00:15:33,140 --> 00:16:00,160 So long everybody.