1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,600 Welcome to season two of the POGLE podcast. I'm Matt Tarca, producer of the POGLE podcast for the POGLE Project. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,400 POGLE stands for Process-Oriented Guided Inquiry Learning, a student-centered approach that guides students in constructing their own understanding of content 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:24,600 and helps them develop important skills such as teamwork, communication, critical thinking, and problem-solving. 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:32,800 The POGLE podcast is an ongoing conversation from the POGLE Project that celebrates innovative educators both in and out of the classroom. 5 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:42,800 For our third episode, we will focus on the first of five strategic goals in the POGLE Project strategic plan, which is to grow and support POGLE practitioners. 6 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:50,200 We will talk about some of the recent initiatives that have helped us pursue this goal, including the National Conference to Advance POGLE Practice, 7 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,200 the Networks Working Verb, and the upcoming Climate Justice Symposium. 8 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:03,600 A fundamental aspect of teaching in a POGLE classroom is building personal relationships, student-to-student and student-to-teacher. 9 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:12,600 It is no surprise that Goal 1 of the strategic plan encourages us to reach out and build personal relationships that are so important in any organization. 10 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,600 We have some folks with us today who have been instrumental in that outreach. 11 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Today, our host Wayne Pearson, who is a retired chemistry professor from the U.S. Naval Academy, interviews our three panelists, Tim Herzog, Gail Webster, and Kristen Plessl. 12 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Wayne, Tim, Gail, and Kristen, thank you for being here today to discuss the importance of strategic goal one. 13 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,200 And Wayne, I will now pass the baton over to you. 14 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:47,800 OK, so we have some folks with us today who are very instrumental in our outreach program in the POGLE project. 15 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,800 I would like to introduce Gail Webster. 16 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Hello, I'm Gail Webster. 17 00:01:52,800 --> 00:02:01,400 I am a former chemistry professor, and I have left that and I'm now a AAAS fellow in Washington, D.C. 18 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,200 And Tim Herzog. 19 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,400 Hi, I'm Tim Herzog. 20 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,600 I'm a chemistry professor at Weaver State University in Ogden, Utah. 21 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,200 And Kristen Plessl. 22 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Hi, everyone. 23 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,200 Kristen Plessl, University of Wisconsin-Whitewater. 24 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,800 OK, let's start with talking about some of the outreach programs that the POGLE project has been involved in. 25 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,800 And I'd like to start with NCAP. 26 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:27,400 And hopefully I'll get this name correct, the National Conference to Advance POGLE Practice. 27 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:35,800 And Gail, you along with Chris Mayfield, you were co-chairs of the planning committee for last summer's conference and a very successful conference, I might want to add. 28 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Could you describe NCAP and how it fits into the outreach efforts of the project? 29 00:02:41,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Sure. NCAP was really a brainchild of Kristen and a planning group at POGLE National Meeting to include more people coming together to really discuss and share practices and to talk about research and all kinds of things. 30 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,600 And to really pull more people into the project to be more active in the project. 31 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:14,200 There were a lot of people that were using POGLE, but if you're the only one at your institution, it can be pretty lonely. 32 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:25,200 So bringing folks together who have gone to some sort of training for POGLE has really filled a niche that we needed in the project, 33 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:35,200 because it's a way also for people from across different disciplines and from different educational institution types. 34 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:42,600 So high school teachers, community college teachers, universities, everybody's there together sharing. 35 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:51,400 OK, so if I were a practitioner who wanted to go to an NCAP, what kinds of experiences would I have there? 36 00:03:51,400 --> 00:04:02,600 You would be able to go to a roundtable discussion on topics where maybe a couple of different people are presenting from their unique perspectives. 37 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:13,800 You would be able to go to workshops on things that we don't necessarily have at the regional meetings or for the E-Series. 38 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:20,000 You would be able to go to poster presentations from practitioners. 39 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:35,200 You would be able to go to plenary sessions where we have excellent speakers come in and talk to us about how their work really intersects with what we do in the POGLE project. 40 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,000 You would be able to work on your writing. They have author coaching. 41 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,800 So if you're starting to write your own activities, you can get some feedback on it. 42 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,400 And I'm sure I'm missing other things that I can't think of right off the top of my head. 43 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Well, there you go. Well, it sounds jam packed to begin with. 44 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,600 So when is our next conference and how can people attend? 45 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,800 Well, I think, aren't we planning for 2023? 46 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,000 Hopefully in Utah, I think, right? Because that was where we were supposed to be. 47 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Then we went virtual. And so the hope is to be back in Utah. 48 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,200 All right. And so before that happens, there'll be a call for applications? 49 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Absolutely. It'll go out to everybody in the database. 50 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:26,200 I'm sure we will post it on the POGLE practitioners page on Facebook. 51 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:34,600 And anybody who has gone to some sort of a workshop is welcome to apply to come to NCAP. 52 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:43,600 So when people apply to come to NCAP, we do offer some financial assistance for people. 53 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,200 It's limited, but through the Jim and Kathy Spencer Fund, 54 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:53,800 we have funding to help support practitioners from all different levels to come to NCAP. 55 00:05:53,800 --> 00:06:01,800 So we really encourage folks to apply because we might be able to help them get there. 56 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,800 I say it sounds terrific, but I also know that it is terrific 57 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,800 because I have attended three NCAPs and I can't wait for number four to come along. 58 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,600 So that's fantastic. Absolutely. 59 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,600 Okay, Tim, let's talk a little bit about networking with POGLE practitioners. 60 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Last year, you were the steering committee liaison for the Networks Working Group. 61 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Could you describe a little bit how the project is making efforts to bring people together 62 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,400 by establishing networks of practitioners? 63 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,600 Sure. We've been working on this for a long time on trying to think about how to connect. 64 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,600 We started off kind of talking about advanced practitioners, 65 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,600 and that was the project that really led to NCAP. 66 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,600 But we've been continuing to try to think about how to connect POGLE practitioners together. 67 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,600 We had an effort for a few years to try to really connect people at the local level, 68 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,600 probably from 2017 to 2019. 69 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,600 We worked pretty hard on that and trying to build small communities of people in local areas 70 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,600 so they could meet and help each other and build community in their local areas 71 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,600 and share in common problems. 72 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:14,600 We had some success with that, but after the PNM in 2019, 73 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,600 we decided that we wanted to do a more virtual part to it. 74 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:26,600 And we were building up to building a Facebook group when actually organically, 75 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Sarah Fox, a member of PNM, actually started a Facebook group of her own, 76 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 and we co-opted it with her blessing. 77 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:45,600 And then that became a really active and dynamic group that was perfectly timed before a pandemic. 78 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,600 So one of the gifts of the pandemic, if you will, 79 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,600 is that we all learned that we can actually do some things remotely 80 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,600 and work together in ways that we hadn't thought about before. 81 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:03,600 And that network on Facebook became a really great resource for POGLE practitioners, 82 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,600 and a lot of people joined in and shared ideas about teaching during a pandemic 83 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,600 and teaching virtually and trying to do POGLE virtually. 84 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:19,600 And everybody found it a great community place where we could just share our frustrations 85 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,600 and share things that we wanted to try to figure out, and we problem-solved for each other. 86 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:31,600 And so that team has been, the network's team has been supporting that effort in all kinds of ways 87 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:38,600 by kind of feeding ideas into it, building some structure to it in terms of creating moderation strategies 88 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,600 and having people serve as moderators. 89 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Although I will admit the POGLE community doesn't need a lot of moderators. 90 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,600 They tend to just be really nice to each other online. 91 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:55,600 So that's been a really great thing is that we haven't really had to limit very much of what people are doing. 92 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:02,600 We're also working toward trying to find ways that we can use affinity groups to find other ways to connect people 93 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:10,600 that have more specific connections about whether it's their content area or it's about the level that they teach at, 94 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,600 whether it's high school or college, or whether it's about particular projects that they're working on. 95 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:23,600 We're trying to use the networks, use that team and the Facebook platform to do that. 96 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:31,600 So if you're interested in joining our Facebook community, probably the easiest thing to do is just search POGLE practitioners 97 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:38,600 from Facebook and look for our group, or you can go to facebook.com forward slash groups forward slash POGLE. 98 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 All right. So Kristen Pussell is with us today. 99 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:48,600 I think more than any other person you've been involved with, there are E-offerings like the E-Series and E-Learning, 100 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,600 just to mention two of those. 101 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Could you describe that part of the outreach effort and perhaps give us sort of an idea of what's coming on down the line? 102 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:04,600 Absolutely. So following the first NCAP, we saw the value of all of these different, 103 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:10,600 both larger professional development opportunities, but also thinking about smaller ones, 104 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:17,600 using the wide variety of talent across the POGLE community to share with other people. 105 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,600 So we created our E-Series, which are many workshops, if you will, really engaged interactive sessions, 106 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,600 which we actually stole from the very first few from the first NCAP. 107 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:36,600 And we continue to use NCAP sessions to inspire our next E-Series offerings. 108 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,600 We offer them three in the fall and three in the spring, variable topics, 109 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:52,600 many of which can be brand new POGLE practitioners can jump in and to learn more about any particular topic, 110 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,600 some of which are more geared towards our more advanced POGLE practitioners. 111 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:07,600 We try to hit a mix every year with interdisciplinary topics that would be interesting to any of our POGLE practitioners. 112 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,600 That is expanding in the next year to something that I'm really excited about. 113 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:20,600 I was on the POGLE Steering Committee recently, and Rick Moog challenged us to think after Gail's co-chairing, 114 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,600 the largest POGLE event ever in the NCAP, which was virtual. 115 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Rick Moog kind of said, I think we can do something every year. 116 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,600 What would this look like if on the off NCAP years, as Gail had said, we do this every two years. 117 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,600 What if we do something virtually and what could that look like? What would that be? 118 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,600 So a subgroup of the Steering Committee got together and started envisioning what this would be. 119 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:55,600 And rather than make it just another NCAP, we really wanted to think about what could we offer virtually 120 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,600 that would be harder to do in person and would engage a wide range of people. 121 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:10,600 So this next year, you will be hearing very soon about an event which we're calling the POGLE Climate Justice Symposium. 122 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:18,600 This is a three day virtual workshop. We have partnered with a small group of people across the United States, 123 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:25,600 Heather Price, Deb Morrison, and Sonia Ramingtenducet, all experts in the field of climate justice, 124 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:32,600 who are going to help come so that people participating can learn about climate justice 125 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,600 and then learn how to incorporate it in their classrooms, leaving that three day workshop 126 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:44,600 with a plan, action plan to incorporate it into their classrooms, including creating a new network. 127 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:51,600 It's been a really engaging and exciting experience. I can't wait to see how it all comes together in the next few months. 128 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,600 But keep an eye out. We'll have a number of outreaches. 129 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:02,600 And this would be something that would be open for not only people who are already using POGLE in their classrooms, 130 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:08,600 but also people who are not. So if you have a friend who maybe is not using POGLE, 131 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:17,600 but climate justice might be the topic to bring into them, we encourage you to share that with them as soon as we get all the materials out and published. 132 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:24,600 So Kristen, when is that symposium going to take place? That will be in June 2022. 133 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:30,600 So look out for information coming late this winter. 134 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:38,600 OK, so it really truly will be an off year offering just about the same time that NCAP would take place in the other years. 135 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:46,600 It'll be about mid-June, I think, because of some scheduling conflicts. But yes, that's exactly the intention. 136 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,600 But as we move forward and continue to offer this in other years, we expect the topic to change. 137 00:13:52,600 --> 00:14:02,600 So we don't expect climate justice to be the topic. We really are building this philosophically in a way that we can change the topic to be whatever would be engaging at the time. 138 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:08,600 OK, so well, that's it for episode three of the podcast series. 139 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:21,600 I think you get an idea of what the project really does try to do to grow and support POGLE practitioners, which is goal number one of the strategic plan. 140 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:33,600 In future podcasts, we will deal with the other goals and again give you an idea of what the project is actively doing to reach those goals that are part of the strategic plan. 141 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:50,600 So I want to thank everybody for being here today and giving us some insights into some of the different types of things that the project is doing to to keep in touch with practitioners and to grow the effort of using POGLE in the classroom. 142 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,600 So thank you until we see you next time. Bye bye. 143 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Thanks to all of you for listening to today's conversation on the POGLE podcast. For additional details on how you can engage with the POGLE project or its working groups, contact associate director Marcy Dubroff at marcy.dubroff at POGLE.org. 144 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,600 That's marcy.dubroff.org. 145 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:33,600 The POGLE project is a 501c3 nonprofit organization. If you would like to make a donation so we can keep providing podcasts, low cost workshops, and classroom materials, please visit www.pogle.org backslash donate. 146 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,600 Intro and outro music of our podcast is produced by POGLE practitioner, Wayne Pearson. 147 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Please join us next time where we discuss the second goal of POGLE strategic plan to provide high quality POGLE activities through the pack and endorsement process. 148 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Until then, enjoy your week. 149 00:15:52,600 --> 00:16:09,600 Intro music of our podcast is produced by POGLE practitioner, Wayne Pearson.